The Month of Horror PART IV: dsheinem vs. noiseredux

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Ack wrote:Michi, how do you get all of your screen captures for these films? I've been wondering about that for a while.
Various image searches mostly, especially if it's something I've watched on TCM. I've also gotten stuff off Tumblr (usually gifs) and when I'm looking for something really specific I browse Youtube and try to grab a screen-capture. For instance, I had to use Youtube for a couple of Warlock pictures (to illustrate the special effects portion) and for one of the pictures from Dead of Night. And I still had to pull that Dead of Night one into Photoshop and up the contrast because the picture was so washed out :?
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Still behind, but catching up! I watched two horror films last night.

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Does anyone else think that movie poster looks like the cover of a trashy romance novel?

Anyway, The Burning is obviously heavily inspired by the glut of post-Halloween slashers, especially the original Friday the 13th. It takes place in a camp where a horribly scarred and angry camp counselor named Cropsy goes after nubile and horny teenagers with a large pair of gardening shears. Over the course of the movie, Crospy wracks up quite the body count as nameless kids get butchered, sometimes in ones and twos, and sometimes as a group in the most important sequence of the film, the raft scene. I say the raft scene is most important, because that particular sequence is how The Burning found its way onto the famed Video Nasty list in Great Britain. Apparently the BBFC thought that full frontal nudity from a former Miss Ohio USA was ok, but not a choppy scene of kids getting pared like shrubs.

Anyway, horror fans will appreciate the special effects work of Tom Savini, which is always a treat even when he only had three days to do it. And TV and film buffs will enjoy the large cast of kids and counselors, which included the likes of a young Jason Alexander, who would go on to play George Costanza on Seinfeld. Here he's a lovable rogue! There's a lot to like about The Burning beyond this too, as it's a competent slasher which keeps its kills continuous, despite its poor performance at the box office. There may be some terrible dialog and acting from some of the cast, as well as some WTF moments like Cropsy's flamethrower, and the film dates itself pretty quick from the fashion to the amount of smoking kids do(and what camp counselor lets a kid walk around with a loaded air pistol anymore?), but there's a lot to like about this movie. It's got heart...which it then spears with hedge clippers.

Oh, and the name Cropsy's significant in New York for a violent criminal. Check out the documentary Cropsey, which explores the urban legend and the history of the child killer Andre Rand.

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I just wasn't impressed with The Innkeepers. It feels like it gives a lot of setup for a payoff that, while good, could have used a lot more. There are some genuinely frightening scenes in this movie involving a couple of screwup ghost hunters who work in a closing inn, but for over half of its length, the film wants to be a lighthearted comedy. It's a stark change when the real hauntings begin about halfway through, but even then it takes its time to get going, and things only really reach a head in the last ten or fifteen minutes.

As far as haunted house movies are concerned, it's likable but not outstanding. I do believe the cast did a great job with their performance, but the story was weak. It reminds me a lot of The Amityville Horror, where it took a long time to build up(and does have a couple of good frights) to an ending that just didn't achieve, but I consider The Innkeepers to be a generally superior movie. And I want to see more from Ti West. He's got a great handle on directing and getting good work from his actors, even when I dislike his screenwriting.

If you really like haunted house movies, give The Innkeepers a go, but for me it just doesn't compare to my favorite, The Changeling.

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The Burning was not inspired by Friday the 13th. They were released at the same time. If anything both movies were inspired by the Cropsy urban legend.

The Innkeepers... man, I used to think we had similar taste in movies Ack. This month's thread is really dividing us. I mean I'm glad you have it some credit, but I loved it. Loved it enough to even take my wife and stay at that inn. We slept in the room that Sara Paxton's character slept in. :)
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noiseredux wrote:The Burning was not inspired by Friday the 13th. They were released at the same time. If anything both movies were inspired by the Cropsy urban legend.
Actually, there was almost exactly a year to the day between their release dates. Tom Savini even turned down Friday the 13th Part 2 to work on The Burning(and he was only given three days to work, so it had to have been a rushed production), and all principal filming was done in the summer months following the first Friday the 13th's May release. While I figure the Cropsy urban legend figures into both, I'd say the amount of money made on Friday the 13th definitely inspired the Weinsteins.
noiseredux wrote:The Innkeepers... man, I used to think we had similar taste in movies Ack. This month's thread is really dividing us. I mean I'm glad you have it some credit, but I loved it. Loved it enough to even take my wife and stay at that inn. We slept in the room that Sara Paxton's character slept in. :)
Oh, I'd stay at the inn too. And I guess I didn't espouse enough credit, because I really think the cast did a phenomenal job, especially Sara Paxton. But the pacing takes way too long for me, and it feels like the film's not entirely sure what it wants to be at times.

Remember our discussion on Death Proof, where I disliked the slow pacing and felt it lost what it was going for, while you loved it and thought it was genuisely handled? That's what I think is happening here. We both recognize the great performances in The Innkeepers, but I feel its pacing is lacklustre while you greatly appreciate that slow burn.
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Ack wrote: Actually, there was almost exactly a year to the day between their release dates.
GTFO. Really? Man, I swear I researched that very thing (nearly 10 yrs ago) and had been under the impression they were released the same year. Weird. I guess I'm misinformed. If F13 had a full-year head-start, then yeah of course I agree it was an inspiration. I just really thought they were filmed at the same time. Huh.
Oh, I'd stay at the inn too. And I guess I didn't espouse enough credit, because I really think the cast did a phenomenal job, especially Sara Paxton. But the pacing takes way too long for me, and it feels like the film's not entirely sure what it wants to be at times.
Yeah, it's in CT. We went there earlier this year. I think prfsnlgmr has stayed there too.

It was a ghost-town too. I think there was only one or two other guests there that night. Really weird, quiet, creepy. It was also really really hot cuz you could not adjust the heat. It was either On or Off, and it had to stay on cuz pipes had burst earlier that month. Here it is January, snow on the ground, and we're cracking windows haha. Anyway, the front-desk guy let us see some of the other rooms that they filmed in as well since it was so slow. Plus I like being able to tell folks that I slept in Sara Paxton's bed.
Remember our discussion on Death Proof, where I disliked the slow pacing and felt it lost what it was going for, while you loved it and thought it was genuisely handled? That's what I think is happening here. We both recognize the great performances in The Innkeepers, but I feel its pacing is lacklustre while you greatly appreciate that slow burn.
I'll give you that. I do love the slowburn of Death Proof. I've seen it more times than I can count at this point.

I've also always been a bigger fan of Kill Bill 2 than 1.

Have you seen The House of the Devil yet? I love that one too, although... slowburner.
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Not yet, but after The Innkeepers, I am interested in checking it out to see if I feel the same way about it.
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This one is really almost more of a sci-fi/monster movie than it is typical slasher/horror fare. An eclectic mix of genres which, on the final balance, is pretty uneven. Henricksen is good enough in the lead role, but too much time was spent with a mostly forgettable cast of supporting teens. Still, i enjoyed it for what it is and the creature effects are pretty well done on the whole. A pleasant surprise.


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I suppose now is a good time to declare that I have loved Pumpkinhead for years.
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noiseredux wrote:We went there earlier this year. I think prfsnlgmr has stayed there too.
Unfortunately, I have not stayed there. I am very jealous of you for having done so, however...
noiseredux wrote:I'll give you that. I do love the slowburn of Death Proof. I've seen it more times than I can count at this point.

I've also always been a bigger fan of Kill Bill 2 than 1.

Have you seen The House of the Devil yet? I love that one too, although... slowburner.
I think Noise and I have simlar taste. I loved The Innkeepers for the reasons discussed above (and also for the fact that the protagonist finds exactly what she is looking for the whole movie...) I also enjoyed Kill Bill Vol. 2 much more than Kill Bill Vol. 1, but sadly, I have not seen Death Proof.

Full Circle, which I watched earlier this month, is also a "slow burn" horror film to a certain extent - similar to the other Mia Farrow horror classic, Rosemary's Baby - which might be part of the reason I enjoyed it so much. Accordingly - and while I am comfortable recommending it to anyone - I think Noise would enjoy it more than Ack. (That said, I hated The Amityville Horror and Don't Look Now; so, not all "slow burn" horror films do it for me...)

I also enjoyed The Changeling immensely, and I am glad we can all agree on that one. (Fun Fact: The Changeling features child actor Voldi Way...the founder of WayForward Technologies!)

Finally - and in addition to Noise - I cannot recommend The House of the Devil enough. IMO, it is a perfect horror film...but I am not sure I would consider it a "slow burner".

EDIT: Netflix just added Pumpkinhead back to its streaming service, and I promptly added it to my queue. I may have to watch that one tonight!
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prfsnl_gmr wrote: (That said, I hated The Amityville Horror and Don't Look Now; so, not all "slow burn" horror films do it for me...)
I like Amityville more than The Changeling to be honest. But I thought Don't Look Now was pretty boring.
Finally - and in addition to Noise - I cannot recommend The House of the Devil enough. IMO, it is a perfect horror film...but I am not sure I would consider it a "slow burner".
Not as slow as Innkeepers, but, it's not really action-y either haha.
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