What RPG are you playing right now?

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I played Final Fantasy VII for the first time about four years ago and really liked it. I don't know if I still would. It would be hard to go back after Tactics Ogre, SMTIV and the like.

No nostalgia involved at all though. I really got into the game's mood, thought the music and environments were fascinating, and loved experimenting with materia. I liked the humor too. I'm one of those guys who actually enjoyed the stair-climbing at Shinra tower. :lol:

Of course it's dated. So are most of the other "greatest console RPGs." You can't walk diagonally in FFVI and no one holds that against it.

The story didn't matter too much to me, other than letting me figure out what the heck happened in Crisis Core.
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If we are talking purely music, then I would agree that FFVII is near the top of the FF series heap. But overall, it's probably in the middle of my list of FF games from best to worst.
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I seriously see far more "Final Fantasy VII is overrated" comments than I actually see comments from people who actually like the game.
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ZenErik wrote:If we are talking purely music, then I would agree that FFVII is near the top of the FF series heap. But overall, it's probably in the middle of my list of FF games from best to worst.
I feel like this is really accurate for me too, yeah. There's tons of things I could say that I like about VII. And tons of things I dislike. I really don't group it with favorites in the series. But I also don't consider it one of the worst. It's just very middle-of-the-road for me.
AppleQueso wrote:I seriously see far more "Final Fantasy VII is overrated" comments than I actually see comments from people who actually like the game.
I think dsheinem said it's one of his favorite games of all time. Or maybe one of his favorite RPG's of all time?

I think dunpeal loves VII also.

I know I've seen at least a handful of people here who hardcore love it. But yeah, it is a pretty divisive entry in the series for sure.
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Valkyrie-Favor wrote:Imagining a far more interactive 2D world is pretty fun, but there don't seem to be any studios with that kind of money trying it. A fully realized world can be presented either way, right?
You can do a lot of world building with text, but the way that a player interacts with it changes dramatically. Creating a detailed world that a player can explore and figure out for themselves is a lot more feasible to do in 3D. Assuming that the hardware is up to the task. I mean, playing Planescape, the game has to fill in a lot of gaps that the graphics don't convey. Stuff that it wouldn't need to if I could zoom in, rotate, and look at objects/NPCs/etc for myself.


FFVII is overrated, but understandably so. First big RPG of the generation, and in turn, the first RPG a lot of people played. Arguably, IV and X get more attention for the same reason (at least, that's what Takashi Tokita has said).
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Final Fantasy 7 is far from being the west written or the most mechanically deep&challenging RPG there is, but I really don't see how it's that much different from majority of JRPGs. When not looking at those factors, and just the roller coaster ride the game is (the scenery, the music, the atmosphere, all the different memorable events during the journey), it's one of the most enjoyable in it's kind that I've played. I enjoyed it more than 6 or 9. Now I can understand people who think that 6 is the best in the series and I probably agree with that statement (atleast the characters were better written, not sure how I'd rate espers against materia), but really, I don't see that much difference in quality between the titles. If there was a big leap between the quality of writing and depth of mechanics between 6, 7, 8 and 9 I could understand people being irate. But the difference between the titles really isn't as stark as it is in something like Fallout 2 ->Fallout 3, System Shock 2->Bioshock or Ultima 7->Ultima 8 (or God forbid 9), so from that point of view I don't understand the resentment towards 7. Yes, it's annoying when clueless people hype the shit out of games that really aren't as good as some less known games, but I don't see the two titles being that much different from each other.
isiolia wrote: You can do a lot of world building with text, but the way that a player interacts with it changes dramatically. Creating a detailed world that a player can explore and figure out for themselves is a lot more feasible to do in 3D. Assuming that the hardware is up to the task. I mean, playing Planescape, the game has to fill in a lot of gaps that the graphics don't convey. Stuff that it wouldn't need to if I could zoom in, rotate, and look at objects/NPCs/etc for myself.
I think Ultima 7 still is the most interactive RPG up to date, and that was released in 1992. Over two decades of technological development and still it's the best in it's genre when it comes to life simulation. Many of the graphical details you speak of are fairly irrelevant, and can be dealt with the use of text. It doesn't matter to me if a text has to explain to me what a character looks like rather than the visuals. What bothers me is that after that finely rendered, voice acted and motion captured NPC stops talking, I can throw trash at it and do all kinds of stupid shit and there's no reaction to my actions. That kills my immersion and reminds me that I'm inside a game, not a virtual world. Like I said, I wish 3D games can fix those problems, but I think it's not feasible for smaller studios and kickstarter projects to deal with those problems, while still managing to create a well written and designed RPG and do it on time and within the budget.
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Menegrothx wrote:Many of the graphical details you speak of are fairly irrelevant, and can be dealt with the use of text. It doesn't matter to me if a text has to explain to me what a character looks like rather than the visuals. What bothers me is that after that finely rendered, voice acted and motion captured NPC stops talking, I can throw trash at it and do all kinds of stupid shit and there's no reaction to my actions.
Well, how often is that the case in older games too? More likely, you can't actually do anything, or NPCs are similarly unresponsive.

There are plenty of times when you don't have absolute freedom either - maybe you can jump around like an idiot and throw stuff, but actually taking objects designated as an NPC's property will prompt them to act. That, to a point, could be intentional so that the player doesn't need to be constantly concerned about hitting the wrong button.
To me, that's not much different than being able to loop through dialogue trees over and over and over.
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Right now I am trying to get through Resonance of Fate. Really enjoying it! Barely in chapter 5 and I feel like I have a loooong way to go.
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FF7 is just one of those things that become so popular people started to hate it.

Also, calling a well received game overrated is such a shallow way of insulting a game. It doesn't actually say anything about what you think of the game. I don't get why people use the term overrated other than to frustrate people who may like that product.
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Violent By Design wrote:FF7 is just one of those things that become so popular people started to hate it.

Also, calling a well received game overrated is such a shallow way of insulting a game. It doesn't actually say anything about what you think of the game. I don't get why people use the term overrated other than to frustrate people who may like that product.
While I do feel it's overrated I agree with you about using the term. The reason I don't like it is everything. I don't care for the story, characters, or setting. The battle system is ok, but I feel it is a chore to play because I don't like the world, so I have no desire to explore it. Which, to me, is the reason I play RPG's. I love to explore the game's world.

Other games do what FFVII does, but they do it better. IMO, FFVIII took the formula set by FFVII and improved it in everyway. I like the story and setting far better. I think the characters are more interesting. I like the art style better and I truly love the battle system. Now, I know the "Draw" system is universally panned for being boring and unnecessary, but I thought it added a good amount of re-playability by making sure you encountered every monster so that you could draw a new spell from it. Also, being able to assign those spells to stats to increase them was awesome. Lastly, being able to level up and assign your GF's was fantastic.

I got into FFVII late. The PS1 was about dead by the time I bought it. I beat it once, but it felt like I forced myself to finish it. I have since bought it on the PSN and have tried to play it thinking I may like it now, but really can't get into it.

All of that being said, I can recognize that it is a well made game. I just don't think it deserves all of the praise that it gets. This is just my opinion though, that doesn't mean I think others shouldn't like it. It's just not my thing.
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