How is your PSOne/PS1 gaming going?

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Wow glad I woke this sleeping thread back up this is great. I seem to have missed a lot.

Tank controls, outside of a TANK I hate them, end of story, but I do agree in an always slow based angled view game they're less awful.

Dumping on Tomba is heresy. That game plays like a solid 16bit era platformer and dinging it just for being 2.5D seems fairly petty as it's actually a lot of fun and has personality. Remember I never had a PS anything until 2001-02 so I didn't grow up or have nostalgia love for the stuff.

Silent Hill I never got into, but I also don't like survival horror stuff as i never find it scary, shocking, or all that fun and usually stradled with god awful tank controls is a kiss of death but it's nice reading up on it. I think the movie wasn't that bad either for a game movie. :)

Maru is right about that era 1st 3D gen of consoles they may look a bit primitive (some more than others) but the real problems are the companies learning/experimenting as you get a lot of bad camera behavior and angles, jacked up controls, and some genres suffer more or less from it as it was a new medium coming off the SNES/Gen/TG16 (and arcade) 2D era stuff.

Maybe bone is right, 3D jumped in a generation, or at least a 1/2 generation too early. They wanted to one up each other and you had the learning curve made on the system instead of behind the scenes learning the system so you had weaker hardware and compromises.

The thing is like Ex there I'm with him, it is a hit and miss thing though as it was early, but there are a good number of PSX games in full 3D that play well. Now some are more obvious genres like your car, space combat flight types, but there are others too like the stuff he said. I know many spooged over how awesome Ape Escape was, imagine this I never tried it, but I'd like to. That was the game that tipped off their jump into the Dual Shock controller when they more realized how 3D gaming should work. I think some companies took their time to learn the environment and what worked best in those lessons. Capcom is a notable one, they played off their strengths with 2D mega man/mmx stuff and arcade ports, but moved into locked view 3D like Resident Evil, and then later you have a well working 3D space camera with Megaman Legends/MM64. They did it the right way learning, not using poor consumers as guinea pigs for bad ideas as much as others did who just threw crap together to see what sticks and stinks.

Oh by the way I'll have Omega Boost in a few days I hope, should be amazing fun as I learned it was by the Gran Tourismo guys and they're known for quality.
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chuckster wrote:If someone goes in with that in mind, something like Jumping Flash, GitS, or even Ape Escape will be 'another wonky early 3D control scheme!'.

You are absolutely right. Bias just puts blinders on folks. Oh well, their loss!
pierrot wrote:I put together an order for a few games yesterday, and most of them were PS1 games. I should have Kagero, Jumping Flash, Jumping Flash 2, and King's Field II arriving in the near future. (Gungriffon for the Saturn was the only non-PS1 game in the order.)

I've tried quite a few Gungriffon games, as much as I love my mecha mechy shooty shoot games, I've never enjoyed any of the Gungriffons. I hope you find some enjoyment in it though. The rest of your games look great on that order. I'm looking forward to seeing what you think of Jumping Flash & Jumping Flash 2. Just in case you didn't know (you probably do, so this is a public service announcement really), there is a third Jumping Flash game. However, it only got a Japanese release:
pierrot wrote:I've still been slowly plugging away at at Tron Bonne. It's been better than my earliest impressions, but I'm still not enthralled with it.

Well, I hope that you come away from the experience having been at least fairly entertained. I really enjoyed the ending.
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I must be in the minority here with regards to Jumping Flash. I bought this game a few years back after reading an article on the front page of Racketboy. I can honestly say that I gave Jumping Flash a fair chance, but I truly do not care for it. I find the controls unwieldy, and the first-person perspective oddly obtrusive. I can never see where I'm going to land. The massive jump distance does not couple well with the tunnel vision of the first-person camera.

Now Tomba! is a great game. I'm not an RPG fan, but I really enjoy the platforming aspects. The art direction is perhaps a bit gauche. It bothers me that there are faces on practically everything, and the color palette lacks subtlety. I'm willing to forgive that because of the game's originality. Tomba! is a game unlike most others. I give Whoopee Camp credit for taking risks and being unafraid to stand apart.
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I thought Jumping Flash was okay, but almost felt more like a tech demo when I got around to playing through it a few years ago (I think a PSOne Classic sale or something, I played through it on Vita).

However, back when I got my PS1, I really liked the demo on the sampler disc. For the time, pre-dual shock/Mario 64 or even many true 3D FPS type games, it seemed to play pretty well. The massive jump distance works in allowing you to look down and use your shadow to figure out where you'll be landing.
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Threads of Fate is the best game on the PlayStation.
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isiolia wrote:I thought Jumping Flash was okay,.

I don't think it's like a 9/10 or anything, it's a 7/10. I just love the game because of how unique it is. Plus vertigo.
BoneSnapDeez wrote:Threads of Fate is the best game on the PlayStation.

You gotta play: https://www.gog.com/game/zwei_the_ilvard_insurrection It reminds me of Threads often.
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Tomba 2 looks fine, but Tomba 1 was just... yikes. The art direction was messed up and I didn't like how it was weirdly 2.5D, in that you can jump into the background on buildings or something. It also had a huge inventory from what I saw, tons of things to talk to or interact with, and the opening minutes of the game seemed like a fetch quest to find something to get rid of some wind that blocks your path, lmao.

I love platformers but my tolerance is pretty thin for them thesedays. In platformers, I like to jump on stuff and get from point A to point B with no BS. This is why I just blasted through the remastered Crash trilogy and it was incredible.
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BoneSnapDeez wrote:Threads of Fate is the best game on the PlayStation.


From a few pages back...

Sarge wrote:In fact, in some ways it reminds me of something that you'd see Falcom develop.


Bone's statement shouldn't have surprised me at all. :lol:
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Threads of Fate is pretty great for sure. Feels more like a beefed up 16-bit RPG, worlds away from the more obtuse games that would share its gen (FFVIII being an easy example :lol: )

Been checking out quite a bit of Silent Bomber recently, and finding it to actually be really cool.
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I couldn't get time to play but I had my copy of Omega Boost arrive yesterday and it looked like all kind of fun when I went reading up on it.
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