Playstation Vita thread

[Exhuminator]

For example, here's some games you will definitely never see on console, ever: http://i.imgur.com/VlaPxsc.jpg

Citing a bunch of idiosyncratic Asian PC games as the root of your argument is a red herring. Obviously I was speaking in relation to the western gaming market. Where 99% of AAA PC games are also on console, and the popular PC indie games always get ported over to other console and handheld digital storefronts. If a game is popular on PC, there's a good chance it also exists on other platforms, if it didn't originate on other platforms first to begin with.

As for the Vita, it's "legacy" now.

Speaking only for the 2015 US market, so far over 100 games have been released THIS YEAR for Vita including physical and digital releases. (In Japan far more than that have been released this year.) Have a peak:

http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html ... 5&numrev=2

There are lots of upcoming games for the Vita as well:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=969122

http://www.ign.com/games/upcoming/vita?filter=latest

Sony themselves published multiple Vita games this year in the USA, so they obviously still have some faith in their platform. http://www.gamefaqs.com/company/10631-s ... 1&devpub=2

I think calling the Vita a legacy platform at this point is a bit short sighted.

[MrPopo]

I feel like we had this exact conversation last generation.

[casterofdreams]

I agree. I can't see much being released after the next 6 months. At least anything remotely big.

[the7k]

So a game is only a game if it's Western AAA. Good to know.

So I guess the Vita really doesn't have any games.

The root of my argument is that the PC has no barrier to entry and thus more games than any other platform can ever possibly hope to have. Do those "idiosyncratic PC games" have to be of interest to you to count? When exactly does a game count and when does it not? Where do you draw the line?

As for the Vita being a "legacy" platform, I put quotes around "legacy" because it wasn't ME calling it that. It was SONY calling it that. If Sony has faith in the platform, then why would they declare it "legacy"?

And yes, I'm aware that there's plenty that was published this year. I'm saying I don't see much yet to be published that will require the late September patch (aka games past Persona 4 Dancing), thus I don't see any reason not to blow the limits off the thing.

I'm not saying it as a bad thing, I love the Vita, I just see the games coming up and I think to myself "If I have to choose between playing Gravity Rush, SFxT and other oldies on the big screen or being able to play whatever game on that list that happens to be exclusive (I wish they'd make it easy to tell which of them are exclusives), I'll go with the former."

[Exhuminator]

So a game is only a game if it's Western AAA. Good to know.

Not what I said.

So I guess the Vita really doesn't have any games.

Definitely not what I said.

Do those "idiosyncratic PC games" have to be of interest to you to count?

Do you think the "PC master race" gamers are about playing weeaboo imports?

When exactly does a game count and when does it not? Where do you draw the line?

Considering we're on an English speaking forum based in the USA, I would say I'd draw the line outside the western gaming realm insofar as discussing PC exclusives.

I'm saying I don't see much yet to be published that will require the late September patch (aka games past Persona 4 Dancing), thus I don't see any reason not to blow the limits off the thing.

You must not have looked at my earlier post showcasing various upcoming Vita releases of qualitative merit. But by all means, if you want to risky-mod your Vita feel free.

[flojocabron]

Dont know if you guys read my little post, but I followed through with my vita purchases!

And I saved a pretty penny too!



All of this was $100 bucks + tax, but in reality, it didn't cost me that much!

I traded in a whole bunch of old movies and I got a good sizable amount of store credit, like I said earlier.

With said credit I got all those things. They may have been retail, but the funds to pay for it certainly was not!

Go check out the Look what I found thread for other goodies! And more explaining of my hustling!

[the7k]

Do you think the "PC master race" gamers are about playing weeaboo imports?

Original Xbox gamers couldn't have cared less about JSRF, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Gunvalkyrie or Outrun 2006, but I somehow doubt that we'd all be willing to just write them off as not counting.

Not to mention many 'weeaboo' imports do end up making their way to western platforms, I've got a great deal of shmups on my Steam account to prove as much.

A game is a game is a game is a game. What people think of said game, whether it is one person or everyone, doesn't really matter. If it's an option, it's an option.

And again, I'm not looking for 'various upcoming Vita releases of qualitative merit.' I'm looking for 'various upcoming Vita EXCLUSIVES of qualitative merit'. A bit of a difference there.

I find it somewhat amusing that you are so strict with exclusive talk on PC, but as soon as it shifts over to Vita suddenly that word just no longer becomes important.

Looking at the upcoming releases, the only exclusives I can see myself buying are Severed and EDF2. With as cheap as Vita TVs are, if worse comes to worse I might just buy a second one.

[casterofdreams]

Dont know if you guys read my little post, but I followed through with my vita purchases!

And I saved a pretty penny too!



All of this was $100 bucks + tax, but in reality, it didn't cost me that much!

I traded in a whole bunch of old movies and I got a good sizable amount of store credit, like I said earlier.

With said credit I got all those things. They may have been retail, but the funds to pay for it certainly was not!

Go check out the Look what I found thread for other goodies! And more explaining of my hustling!

Plus 1 for Child of Light. I got my copy this week for $18.

[Exhuminator]

Original Xbox gamers couldn't have cared less about JSRF, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Gunvalkyrie or Outrun 2006, but I somehow doubt that we'd all be willing to just write them off as not counting.

A key difference there being those games got domestic English releases (not to mention they weren't PC games anyway). Therefore the niche gamers such as ourselves who are attracted to such oddities were able to play them sufficiently. I'm not sure how many of the Japanese PC games you cited in that picture earlier have gotten domestic releases in English. It's hard for them to catch traction with a general foreign audience if they remain in Japanese and unreleased in western markets.

Not to mention many 'weeaboo' imports do end up making their way to western platforms, I've got a great deal of shmups on my Steam account to prove as much.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about some weeaboo games. I'm just saying that the average PC gamer, especially those who jokingly or not refer to themselves as being members of the "master race", are not buying the type of games we're talking about. If you look at lists of top selling PC games in the western markets, you will rarely see Japanese games listed, let alone "weeaboo" class ones:

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/ ... c/filtered

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_b ... games#List

While I too appreciate visual novels, doujin shmups, eroge DRPGs, and other such niche genres, if you're talking about the holistic western market; those categories might as well not even exist insofar as average Joe PC gamer is concerned. Devoted western PC enthusiasts are not spending hundreds of dollars to build rigs because they're wanting to run the latest Cave releases.

I'm looking for 'various upcoming Vita EXCLUSIVES of qualitative merit'. A bit of a difference there.

Speaking overall, the Vita has had quite a few exclusives. If you look at the Japanese market the numbers are quite high. Domestically speaking they are still relatively impressive:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... only_games

As far as exclusive upcoming Vita games that likely won't suck are concerned, if you go back a ways and look at an earlier post I made, I listed a few. As far as 2015 goes, we've already seen some nice Vita exclusives released IMO.

I find it somewhat amusing that you are so strict with exclusive talk on PC, but as soon as it shifts over to Vita suddenly that word just no longer becomes important.

That's because my contention is not about Vita exclusives, but rather that some here think the Vita is over and done with. I do not agree that the Vita is nearly dead yet. While I understand that Sony may consider the platform "legacy", that doesn't mean its developers, publishers, and demographic share the same sentiment. The ancient PSP is obviously "legacy", but we still saw new PSP releases in 2015 (such as the amazing Brandish: The Dark Revenant) in western markets, and more are coming. (Not to mention the PS3 is considered legacy now, but it's still getting new releases.)

But you don't have to take my word for it:

"So, yeah, we’re still in the Vita business. We’re still using it to bring new experiences. I think the cost of entry for a developer is probably more friendly than doing a full-blown, AAA PS4 title. Yeah [we’re happy with PS Vita sales in the US]. In fact, we sold more than we had internally targeted last year. We saw some issues in the market last year with supply constraint, which was kind of a surprise." said Jim Ryan of Sony, this year

And there are plenty of Vita releases upcoming:

http://www.ign.com/games/upcoming/vita?filter=latest

Overall my key point is that while the Vita might not be selling like hotcakes, the system still has legs. I wouldn't be surprised to see it continue to receive domestic releases well into 2017.

[laurenhiya21]

Dont know if you guys read my little post, but I followed through with my vita purchases!

And I saved a pretty penny too!



All of this was $100 bucks + tax, but in reality, it didn't cost me that much!

I traded in a whole bunch of old movies and I got a good sizable amount of store credit, like I said earlier.

With said credit I got all those things. They may have been retail, but the funds to pay for it certainly was not!

Go check out the Look what I found thread for other goodies! And more explaining of my hustling!

Little jealous of the Senran Kagura... I went to Pink Gorilla recently and I thought they had a copy in stock, but it turned out to be a Japanese copy ><; I really just need to order a copy already before it gets pricey (that and Criminal Girls cause that seems to be going up in price).