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I don't understand why you people blame Trump.

The guy is clearly having a blast with it, clearly he never planned to run seriously, and yet a large % of American people are supporting him.

As for bigots: isn't any extreme bigoted? I think that's why the SJW slur exists. to Describe "liberals" who are bigots. We have that a lot in Greece, leftists who think they are so high and above others morally, that you can only either agree 100% with them, or you're a filthy fascist.

So if you are somewhere in the middle politically, I can understand why you would want a slur for such closed minded and extremist people.

(And btw I'm European, so when I say I'm centrist, that still puts me on the far left of the American political spectrum)
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Pulsar_t wrote:Those deaths are the price for having the 2nd amendment.
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How about instead of banning all Muslims we work to fix the actual problem. We work to educate both sides, call for reform and understanding, fix political instabilities in problem countries, support and embrace the Muslim-American community who embrace American values, etc. Actually, nah fuck that. It sounds like too much work. Let's just ban all of em' and ignore the problem. Maybe it'll just go away.
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oxymoron wrote:fix political instabilities in problem countries
Easier said than done.
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oxymoron wrote:How about instead of banning all Muslims we work to fix the actual problem. We work to educate both sides, call for reform and understanding, fix political instabilities in problem countries, support and embrace the Muslim-American community who embrace American values, etc.
While we're at it, let's make war and killing illegal. It's so simple guys.

My goal isn't to fix the problem; the last 14 years have shown we are unable to solve the Middle East's issues. I just want the problem kept over there, let them sort out their differences among themselves. If Russia wants to step in instead that's fine. It's not our job to be world nanny.
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BoringSupreez wrote:
oxymoron wrote:How about instead of banning all Muslims we work to fix the actual problem. We work to educate both sides, call for reform and understanding, fix political instabilities in problem countries, support and embrace the Muslim-American community who embrace American values, etc.
While we're at it, let's make war and killing illegal. It's so simple guys.

My goal isn't to fix the problem; the last 14 years have shown we are unable to solve the Middle East's issues. I just want the problem kept over there, let them sort out their differences among themselves. If Russia wants to step in instead that's fine. It's not our job to be world nanny.
Killing is illegal last I checked. But, it would be a good start to minding our own business if we quit engaging in war. You can't really actively contribute to creating a problem and then just walk away and "let them sort it out". This is a bad plan and would only cause more hatred and strained relationships than we already deal with. It would be great if as a country we did bother with some real education about the issues at hand instead of the question always being to kill or let live. The real problem is lumping in innocent people with those who are doing wrong. It sort of spits in the face of what we are (supposedly) about in this country.
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BoringSupreez wrote:I just want the problem kept over there, let them sort out their differences among themselves.
The problem, however, isn't a problem of Islam, and prohibiting Muslims from immigrating or even visiting the US doesn't "keep the problem over there." Sectarianism is really just a form of tribalism, and in nations where the government has little to no power or influence and corruption is the expected norm, tribal lines grow strong as communities work to provide for, protect, and effectively police themselves. The problem in the Middle East has a lot more to do with money, access to resources, and the social dynamics of power than religion. Extremism in religion is the symptom, not the cause.
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Pulsar_t wrote:I've decided to tune out all this bullshit. Better this way, it's all bullshit and everybody's selling their own brand. See ya next year folks! (at least in this thread)
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... -in-syria/

Free market terror. Bullshit it's all bullshit we're swimming in.
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Pulsar_t wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... -in-syria/

Free market terror. Bullshit it's all bullshit we're swimming in.
Amazing, isn't it? The biggest contradiction I have recognized lately is how Obama is full on against Assad, claiming that he's responsible for killing a lot of his own people. Somehow it's different if you send a drone over to do the dirty work, killing a group of people along with the targeted suspect...

Along with the fact that Turkey is supposedly heavily funding ISIS.

Not to mention the recent news saying that a good chunk of ISIS and al-Qaeda twitter accounts can be traced back to UK, then back to Saudi Arabia. Anti Zionists are claiming that the Israeli army has been assisting al-Qaeda fighters in Southern Syria as well...

According to Edward Snowden, Terrorism kills less people in America than bathtub falls and police violence. Yet we give up our most important rights in order to "win the fight" against terrorists.

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Crazy mixed up world we live in.

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It feels like there is a tension in the political air... perhaps similar to the beginnings of major warfare between the bigger nations, instead of just proxy wars? Kinda like how the Kaiser set off on an elaborate vacation as he and the Austrian government signed the ultimatum to Serbia to hide the fact that he knew about it? Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.
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