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Re: Linux returns to PS3. Yes, that's both fat & slim models.

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:02 pm
by jfrost
Niode wrote:
Rurouni_Fencer wrote:http://kotaku.com/5734099/ps3-hack-dispenses-trophies-galore

So hackers have figured out how to give themselves trophies..

Why would you want to do this.. - what's the point?? To brag to all your 4th grade friends at recess that you've got x-amount of trophies on your dad's copy of Call of Duty..?

I'm all for gaming-based achievements, since they give you a reason, (sometimes) to replay a game differently or go another route, but Sony's Trophies never really grabbed me.. Now, with this going on, it's lost even more appeal to me. Sucks for anybody who seriously goes after Trophies in PS3 games, now that anybody can obtain them with a quarter of the effort...


That's been possible ever since the first hack on 3.41 (IE over 6 months now)... It's not news. Way to go Kotaku, you are a fucking waste of internet bandwidth.

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Re: Linux returns to PS3. Yes, that's both fat & slim models.

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:44 am
by Rurouni_Fencer
Niode, what's your take on the LV2 hacking that's been going on? Would this make it feasible to run backups saved onto the HDD, (with the GeoHot CFW?)

Just curious because I've been reading about flukes1's work on breaking LV2 protection, (which, if I'm reading it correctly, this would open the floodgates for game piracy..)
All I want to do is store my collection on my HDD and/or a bigger HDD I get in the future, and preserve my PS3 collection with disc-less loading.. (I'd also LOVE to save my PS1 collection on my HDD at some point when the tech is there..)

Re: Linux returns to PS3. Yes, that's both fat & slim models.

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:57 am
by Niode
Rurouni_Fencer wrote:Niode, what's your take on the LV2 hacking that's been going on? Would this make it feasible to run backups saved onto the HDD, (with the GeoHot CFW?)

Just curious because I've been reading about flukes1's work on breaking LV2 protection, (which, if I'm reading it correctly, this would open the floodgates for game piracy..)
All I want to do is store my collection on my HDD and/or a bigger HDD I get in the future, and preserve my PS3 collection with disc-less loading.. (I'd also LOVE to save my PS1 collection on my HDD at some point when the tech is there..)


Right, just saying, all the information is right here in this thread. I've answered this question a few times now. LV2 access will allow the interception of syscalls, which in turn allows dynamic linking to files stored on the HDD or a USB drive. This is how the backup loaders worked before. It's one of the reasons why you needed a genuine bluray game in the system otherwise certain games would not boot. It basically tricks the PS3 into thinking it's loading files from a bluray when in fact it's loading them from a HDD. (this is how poor the security system is on the PS3 that this sort of hack is possible).

You can already install games to your HDD on the standard 3.55 GeoHot CFW (no LV2 patch), however, certain games just don't work properly. This is made possible thanks to our ability to decrypt SELFs (Secure ELFs AKA EBOOT.BIN) patch the dev_bdvd string with dev_hdd0 in a hex editor, sign the ELF back into an encrypted SELF (EBOOT.BIN) then build a PSN package of the entire backup directory, which is then signed again and finalised using GeoHot's tools. You can then copy that PKG file to your PS3 and install it as a PSN game. The PS3 will then boot it from the XMB. No loader required. Again, this goes to show how much of a failure the security is on the PS3. There is absolutely no circumvention of copy protection going on here. At all. All it takes is the editing of 4 bytes of data in the EBOOT and PS3 will boot a copy as if it was a genuine game. It simply just does not know any better. The hypervisor is the biggest waste of a SPU ever. It is absolutely useless.

Re: Linux returns to PS3. Yes, that's both fat & slim models.

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:10 am
by Rurouni_Fencer
Thanks - and sorry for making you repeat yourself in the thread.. But I do appreciate the lay-man's break-down you give of the inner workings of the hack and it's use..

Re: Linux returns to PS3. Yes, that's both fat & slim models.

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:42 am
by Niode
Rurouni_Fencer wrote:Thanks - and sorry for making you repeat yourself in the thread.. But I do appreciate the lay-man's break-down you give of the inner workings of the hack and it's use..


I didn't mean to be snippy with you, I'm just tired. It probably needed explaining better anyway. Plus I can refer any future questions to this page now.

Oh and to the people who keep PMing me. No I don't know why GT5 doesn't work on your system. STOP SENDING ME PMs. Why don't you figure this shit out on your own? The information and the tools are out there and they work. If you're too dense to fire up a VM with Linux and figure out how to compile some code and clone some GITs then maybe you shouldn't really be dabbling in this sort of thing in the first place? You might break something. Next person to sign up for an account for no other reason than just to PM me about this gets banned.

Re: Linux returns to PS3. Yes, that's both fat & slim models.

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:07 am
by Hobie-wan
Niode wrote:Next person to sign up for an account for no other reason than just to PM me about this gets banned.


Pfft, like any of those people would see this message. *sigh*

Re: Linux returns to PS3. Yes, that's both fat & slim models.

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:22 am
by Rurouni_Fencer
Niode wrote:I didn't mean to be snippy with you, I'm just tired. It probably needed explaining better anyway. Plus I can refer any future questions to this page now.


No offense taken! 8)

Re: Linux returns to PS3. Yes, that's both fat & slim models.

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:20 am
by Ziggy
Niode wrote:Oh and to the people who keep PMing me. ... Next person to sign up for an account for no other reason than just to PM me about this gets banned.



:lol: I can't tell you how many no posts / freshly signed up people PM me with questions on repros. At one point I figured out which terms were getting the hits on Google that triggered most of the PM's, so I actually went through my repro thread and censored it. Now 0 posters don't PM me quite as much.

Re: Linux returns to PS3. Yes, that's both fat & slim models.

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:19 pm
by Niode
Hobie-wan wrote:
Niode wrote:Next person to sign up for an account for no other reason than just to PM me about this gets banned.


Pfft, like any of those people would see this message. *sigh*


One can hope. Seriously, wish I hadn't bothered.

Re: Linux returns to PS3. Yes, that's both fat & slim models.

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:11 am
by Rurouni_Fencer
For those who may have missed it, and are interested in emulation, I wrote up a quick little tutorial on how to get NES, SNES, and Genesis emulation working on the PS3..

See Here: http://www.racketboy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=28069

Niode, any firmware you can recommend outside and/or on top of GeoHot? I've noticed the surplus of CFW lately and I honestly can't tell the crap from the groundbreaking..