Wii: A failure

[the King]

If it weren't for millions of "casual" gamers, the Wii would have been a massive financial failure. .

I think this sentence sums it all up really. Most diehard gamers keep knocking this whole "casual" gamer group, but right there in the same sentence it says there are millions of them. Your average person doesn't collect videogames, or have all three current gen consoles or even have the time to play 10 new games a year. Heck, I don't right now. Not even close. Someone knocked the Wii for only putting out that many "good" titles this year in this thread and I haven't even had a chance to play those, let alone more than that. Who has the time to play through that many games, let alone spend that much money? So, if I'm saying that, what is your average consumer looking to buy one videogame system for their family?

[CRTGAMER]

I agree Nintendo should have stuck with controllers instead of Wii controllers.

You know how HD and LCD's pretty much killed the Lightgun?

The Wii with the Motion Sensors at least light gun game play can still be alive, or House of the Dead.

[the7k]

Well, Time Crisis 4 also managed to do light guns right on the PS3. Unfortunately, the game sold awfully, so it won't catch on.

@ The King
I know for sure I play through more than that many games in a year. Hell, I've already played through New Super Mario Bros Wii, Bayonetta and X-Men Origins (Yeah, yeah... crappy game, but I borrowed it from a friend) this year, and January isn't even over yet.

However, I've got plenty of games I want to go back to on the PS3 (and 360, if I ever get one), and plenty more to look forward to.

But hey, whatever. The Wii has it's merits. I really want one just for Tatsunoko vs Capcom (and, apparently, the King of Fighters Orochi Saga is a lot better on the Wii than the PS2). However, I know for damn sure I can't live on the Wii alone.

[rainnyx4]

If it weren't for millions of "casual" gamers, the Wii would have been a massive financial failure. .

I think this sentence sums it all up really. Most diehard gamers keep knocking this whole "casual" gamer group, but right there in the same sentence it says there are millions of them. Your average person doesn't collect videogames, or have all three current gen consoles or even have the time to play 10 new games a year. Heck, I don't right now. Not even close. Someone knocked the Wii for only putting out that many "good" titles this year in this thread and I haven't even had a chance to play those, let alone more than that. Who has the time to play through that many games, let alone spend that much money? So, if I'm saying that, what is your average consumer looking to buy one videogame system for their family?

This is actually precisely why I'm pissed off about the Wii. Because I have limited time and money.

The Wii has very limited options as far as games go. With limited time and money, my choices for games have to be very carefully evaluated. And since most Wii titles are incredibly lackluster, I also have very limited options as far as games. Most "great" games on the Wii are first party games that still go for ~$45 used.

However, on the PS3 I can get:

Unreal Tournament III $20
Rainbow Six Vegas $20
Far Cry 2 $20
BioShock $19
Resistance $28
Riddick $20
GTAIV $28
Prince of Persia $28
Fallout 3 $27
Ratchet & Clank TOD $28
Uncharted $24
LBP $30
Dead Space $20
Metal Gear 4 $27
Ninja Gaiden Sigma $18
Skate $11
Civilization $28
Virtua Fighter 5 $21
Soul Calibur IV $18
MLB 08 $10
Madden 09 $20
NHL 08 $5
GRID $28
Burnout $22
Fight Night $28
Orange Box $20
Oblivion $28

Wii:

Boom Blox Bash Party $28
Metroid Prime 3 $26
Resident Evil 4 $19

A lot of people have been crying out about this thread being a troll job. But I don't see it that way. Most of the comments have been either "I don't care what you say concerning ratings/sales/etc., I love the Wii!" or someone like myself using numbers to arrive at some sort of objective value system. Trolling would have been "LOL, Wii sux!" If anything, the people just providing subjective reasons why they like the system should be chastised. Myself and others are trying to provide outside sources as evidence to our argument.

[alienjesus]

Wii:

Boom Blox Bash Party $28
Metroid Prime 3 $26
Resident Evil 4 $19
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Whilst i can't guarantee the US prices, all these games go pretty cheap here in the UK:

De Blob
Wario Land Shake Dimension
Blastworks: Build, Trade, Destroy
Muramasa
Little AKings Story
House of the Dead Overkill
Madworld
Dead Space Extraction
Kororinpa
Lets Tap
Rabbids Go Home
Punch-Out!!
Mario Strikers Charged Football
Metal Slug Anthology
SNK Arcade Classic Volume 1
Okami
Zack and Wiki
Batallion Wars 2
Mercury Meltdown Revolution
Dewys Adventure
Eledees
Big Brain Academy
Broken Sword
Sam and Max
Endless Ocean
Excite Truck
Guilty Gear XX accent core
House of the Dead 2 &3 return
Klonoa
No More Heroes

Not to mention potentially more questionable titles that seem to be love or hate, such as Nights, Deadly Creatures, Umbrella Chronicles, Cooking Mama, Raving Rabbids, Sonic Titles, Trauma Centre. Perhaps the wii does have less good games than other consoles, but i still think people are underrepresenting it horribly in this thread. Thats what, a list of 25 great games that you can probably get for under £20 in the UK, and which quite frankly, people always seem to forget about in the discussion of the wii. Perhaps they aren't big name mainstream games, but they're good games, and they're fun, and thats all i want from a console. That and they aren't all bloody FPS either, which is another thing i enjoy :p

[rainnyx4]

I was only counting games that got an 85 or better score on metacritic.com and that cost $30 or less on amazon.com. That's how I came up with my lists.

[ZeroAX]

yeah. nintendo should have made a normal system once more. cause everyone liked the gamecube and the n64 so much.


the only reason wii is a failure is because 3rd parties failed it.

nintendo should have restricted the content. it should have only allowed 5 quality games a year like they did with the nes.

but no. everyone called them hitler 2 for doing that. so they thought they'd allow the crap, and when developers saw a profit from crap they'd think they could make more money with quality products.


but it didn't go like that. NO instead Ubisoft and EA are abandoning wii development after their 50 baby games a year (ubisoft) and their rail shooter (EA) failed to sell as much.


I mean nintendo leaves them an entire year without high profile releases, so they can sell games on the wii (3rd partys) and the best they could come up with is...... lacking. The only game imo, that came out on the wii this year, that should have actually sold more is Little King Story.


Madworld would have bombed on ANY system.

The Conduit just sucked.


And no more baby games and on rails shooters.


At least nintendo's games are still good.

[RCBH928]

How about this,
We can tell the console is great one if it has community support after its death.
Like see how much SNES is popular against say 3DO.

I am not trying to say the Wii is as bad as the 3DO, but after the system's death(no more games developed for the system), if people still go out after the Wii and buy its games and the console because its a great one(just like how ps2 is doing now), is this good enough as an indicator that the Wii is a failure or not?

[MrPopo]

I think this thread needs a good derailment. Let me try and deliver

Trauma Centre

Now, I can understand why you Brits argue for colour over color and the related words. But how can you honestly say that it's spelled Centre instead of Center? Colour is based around the fact that the first syllable has a different vowel sound than the second. I don't think you pronounce it "Cen-tree" or "Cen-tre", so why not spell it the way it sounds, namely Center? Hell, you pronounce schedule the way it's spelled. I just want some consistency from you Brits if you're going to change the spelling of colour.

[alienjesus]

I think this thread needs a good derailment. Let me try and deliver

Trauma Centre

Now, I can understand why you Brits argue for colour over color and the related words. But how can you honestly say that it's spelled Centre instead of Center? Colour is based around the fact that the first syllable has a different vowel sound than the second. I don't think you pronounce it "Cen-tree" or "Cen-tre", so why not spell it the way it sounds, namely Center? Hell, you pronounce schedule the way it's spelled. I just want some consistency from you Brits if you're going to change the spelling of colour.

Who said English follows rules? The OU in Couch, You and Thought is pronounced differently in each word, so its not like it matters.

Also words like kettle, brittle etc arent pronounced the way they're written either, and as far as i know, you Americans don't spell them as Kettel and Brittel, so actually, it seems to me that our spelling is more in keeping with the rules of English.