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Menegrothx wrote: He didnt mention brainwashing though (although censorship is obivously a major part of it). Maybe majority of North Koreans are satisfied with their situation, or believe that by over throwing their government, their living conditions would become worse (Soviet Union -> Russia?). Maybe they think that the outside world is so treacherous and full of danger that what ever life they're living right now, beats opening the flood gates? Dunno :)
I'm pretty sure 1984 mentioned brainwashing....A LOT
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I've seen some excerpts from history books in Korea....its bad.

Something along the lines of their leader being born from the womb of a female goddess and being brought down by angels heralded by thousands of trumpeteers while he radiates pure happiness and the knowing to control his country in a strong way yadda yadda yadda. Its some scary shit honestly.
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Forlorn Drifter wrote:I've seen some excerpts from history books in Korea....its bad.

Something along the lines of their leader being born from the womb of a female goddess and being brought down by angels heralded by thousands of trumpeteers while he radiates pure happiness and the knowing to control his country in a strong way yadda yadda yadda. Its some scary shit honestly.
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Actually, North Korea has experienced a high defection rate amongst its population, as citizens flee to China and then to South Korea. In fact, the South Korean government recently had to construct newer facilities to handle the influx of North Korean defectors. Sure, the populace hasn't risen up in North Korea, but generally they are starved, kept unarmed, and taught to worship their leader as a god. The Party and the military are the dominant powers there, and the resources go to them, so individuals who join those are more likely to have their needs met. And dissenters are sent to prison camps, where they are further demeaned, brainwashed, executed, or simply worked to death. For its part, China tends to send back any North Korean citizens it captures sneaking across the border, but those folks are thrown into the camps.
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Appropriate song for the endless cluster*** in the ME.
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And the EU is about to create its own Oshama Bin Laddens
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22684948

Yes EU, do what we spent 2 decades making fun of the Americans for doing. Create our own terrorists. Yes, I'm sure the guns will only be kept available to "moderate" militants, who once Assad goes are sure to protect the rights of every group in Syria.

But no, sending aid in the form of medicine or food supplies to the 30 thousand people who have fled to Turkey is a no-no, selling arms to future terrorists who eat the hearts of disembodied corpses, that's being a good person.

The founding fathers of the EU will be turning in their graves (or yelling at the TV those who are still alive)
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Same logic that resulted in Srebrenica and maybe even Rwanda. Trouble is, Asshat's forces are still getting their supplies from their trusty friends in the region. A few beards are always more terrifying than tens of thousands of killed civilians. But it's a messy situation and no approach is best, at least in term of humanitarian considerations. The longer and more desperate this conflict becomes, the more radicalised the opposing forces are going to become.
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Since this post is still going on and people are still concerned to know , I will share with you some of the videos to what happens to the Syrian people by Bashar Al-Asaad's regime .

warning , extreme gore :


signs of torture:


video of dead children :



i am guessing these videos are not shown on western media for reasons I do not understand.
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RCBH928 wrote:Since this post is still going on and people are still concerned to know , I will share with you some of the videos to what happens to the Syrian people by Bashar Al-Asaad's regime .

warning , extreme gore :


signs of torture:


video of dead children :



i am guessing these videos are not shown on western media for reasons I do not understand.
No, we know about it. It doesn't make the daily news shows for FCC compliance reasons, though we still see it online.

That said, there are reasons we are still wary about giving guns to the rebels, mainly because time and again, the people we give guns to tend to point them at us. ZeroAX mentioned that we make our own terrorists, and that is a pretty true statement: we armed the Afghan fighters to defeat the Soviets, but now fight them ourselves, we armed the Vietnamese through our OSS Deer Teams to wage guerrilla warfare on the Japanese during WWII, and those arms were then used against the French and finally us, we sold arms to both the Iraqis and Iranians in the 1980s in hopes they would use them to kill each other, but have since gone to war with one and may end up in a war with the other...it's a recurring theme.

Heck, there's a rumor that our diplomat in Libya was in Benghazi trying to track down weapons given by the State Department to the rebels there but which had subsequently fallen into the hands of terrorist organizations which oppose us. And we have been working to "secretly" arm the Syrian rebels, but those arms are ending up in the hands of Al Qaeda aligned groups there too.

Then again, a few years back we let straw purchasers walk off with thousands of weapons from Southwest gun dealers to arm Mexican drug cartels, and then we lost track of them. End result, at least one dead American and 400 dead Mexicans tied directly to those weapons.

Really, there is only one thing I can come up with based on this trend:

The US makes for a TERRIBLE arms dealer.
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Ack wrote:The US makes for a TERRIBLE arms dealer.
Unfortunately, it's not just the US. " The enemy of our enemy is our friend" has often, throughout millennia, proved to be terrible advice.
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