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flex wood wrote:

Dylan wrote: if you're willing to go on to the next random dungeon without renewing your resources, you can earn better and better rewards for each dungeon you go through (increased experience, increased gold, better treasures, and increased treasure effectiveness are all possible outcomes and they stack continually).

Any idea if taking the a or b routes affects the bonuses you get? Because I'd much rather get experience and better items then gold and what ever the other forth bonus is that for some reason I can't remember what it is.

I'm not 100% certain about this, but just going off of what I've seen it appears to be random what bonuses you get. Exp and gold boosts seem to usually be the ones you get first and treasure effectiveness is the hardest to get. After 4 rounds you'll be stacking all 4, although without some sort of item that prevents gear degradation your gear probably won't last (which is why items that have that are actually decent I've realized).

Don't count the treasure effectiveness boost out though, it makes all of the weapon criteria (like damage to undead +15%) increase by a percentage.

Well, I stuck with it. That second batch of bosses is super, freaking HARD. I ran a bunch of the sidequests, as boring as they were, for XP and points. I also ran through the random dungeons for a while for the bonuses. It was boring, but it got results. I got some stronger AI companions. I also got my Amazon to level 32 (I stopped using the elf) and started focusing completely on skills to get her into berserk quickly and do as much damage as possible while in it, and I bought an elixir to give her temporary invulnerability. So I finally was able to ACTUALLY DO SOME FREAKING DAMAGE on those bosses. Seriously, the health on those bosses is ridiculous, especially when you're trying to kill them fast enough for the talismans.

So yeah, I beat the final boss and got S treasure rank and a whole shitload of S rank items. Pretty cool. The second half of the game is rough, a bit too much I think. Me and my AI characters died repeatedly(mostly on the boss fights), but I never used a continue. I refuse to waste money on that. I just tried to make due with whatever lives I had and reload if I lost them all. I was having a lot more fun in the first half of the game, before the B level paths opened up and the whole game's difficulty level amped up dramatically. I suppose that is why they open up the online multi-player once the B paths open up. A few high level human friends who are smarter than the AI bots would have been a big help. I can't imagine now what hard mode is like, but I think it's cool that there is an actual story reason for it.

So yeah, it's a great game, but the high difficulty and emphasis on grinding can get pretty annoying.

I beat the Minotaur last night and lost a life. Also 3 of my AI companions died (one twice) during the fight. I spent the gold at that time to resurrect them - is that a good or bad strategy?
I also have not been using items... I am struggling since I am just used to Final Fight style beat-em ups and the attack from the diagonal direction usually works just fine for most boss fights.
I also reequip my character as soon as I exit a dungeon since I find better weapons. What is everyone's strategy on spoils?

For what it's worth, and I know this probably isn't going to help many people here but, after playing the game for a bit today with my brother and turning off the npc slots the game seems so much easier without the npc's. I don't know if it's just the fact that I'm always doing damage instead of getting which character I am confused or if the game scales with the amount of players in your party. The player one only progressing the storyline is kind of stupid since I've over leveled my elf and haven't even done anything story wise with her.

As for items I haven't been using them really, mostly just using food for health since I have about 100,000 gold I can just revive as needed and not worry.

Equipment wise I'm always keeping my eye out for what is going to do the most damage and have the best defense whenever I finish a level. With the elf I'm mostly looking for better boots due to the skill that raises kick attack with the boots defense.

I gotta say, I am sick and goddamn tired of people talking about the boobs on the sorceress and how offensive it is. Every single goddamn time the game comes up in a podcast I listen to, THAT is the topic of conversation

I listend to one hour long podcast that spent what seemed like 5 minutes discussing the actual game, and fifty minutes discussing the so called "controversy" surrounding the sorceress

God. GET OVER IT PEOPLE!!!!

Her boobs are not causing war or world hunger and guess what? THERE ARE GIRLS IN THE GAME WITH NORMAL PROPORTIONS AND EVEN SMALL BOOBS

Oh, but of course no one wants to talk about that. So much easier to single out the sorceress and demonize the game

The industry is getting so PC and easily offended now it's getting on my nerves. It was the same bullshit with Lollipop Chainsaw. I wanted to hear people talk about the game's fun, old school, arcade beat 'em up vibe, the colorful visuals, the funny script, the fourth wall breaking, and the cool Sparkle Hunt mechanic and every article I read or podcast I listened to was just whining and bitching about Juliette being too sexy

God, what's with all the prudes these days? It's not a crime for a female to look hot or have big boobs. Some actually do in real life. That may come as a shock to some of these whiners and feminazis I suppose

Gamerforlife wrote:I gotta say, I am sick and goddamn tired of people talking about the boobs on the sorceress and how offensive it is. Every single goddamn time the game comes up in a podcast I listen to, THAT is the topic of conversation

I listend to one hour long podcast that spent what seemed like 5 minutes discussing the actual game, and fifty minutes discussing the so called "controversy" surrounding the sorceress

God. GET OVER IT PEOPLE!!!!

Her boobs are not causing war or world hunger and guess what? THERE ARE GIRLS IN THE GAME WITH NORMAL PROPORTIONS AND EVEN SMALL BOOBS

Oh, but of course no one wants to talk about that. So much easier to single out the sorceress and demonize the game

The industry is getting so PC and easily offended now it's getting on my nerves. It was the same bullshit with Lollipop Chainsaw. I wanted to hear people talk about the game's fun, old school, arcade beat 'em up vibe, the colorful visuals, the funny script, the fourth wall breaking, and the cool Sparkle Hunt mechanic and every article I read or podcast I listened to was just whining and bitching about Juliette being too sexy

God, what's with all the prudes these days? It's not a crime for a female to look hot or have big boobs. Some actually do in real life. That may come as a shock to some of these whiners and feminazis I suppose

While I agree with you on some points, but with less rage and passion, aren't you contributing to the same issue you are complaining about?

A decade ago, nobody would've thought that the most controversial game of 2013 would be a 2D beat 'em up.

AppleQueso wrote:A decade ago, nobody would've thought that the most controversial game of 2013 would be a 2D beat 'em up.

I don't understand why there would be any controversy over it. Have the people freaking out over it never seen a video game before?

brunoafh wrote:

AppleQueso wrote:A decade ago, nobody would've thought that the most controversial game of 2013 would be a 2D beat 'em up.

I don't understand why there would be any controversy over it. Have the people freaking out over it never seen a video game before?

I think that, because the character is so extremely designed, it struck a nerve in people who see much of gaming as a whole as overly-sexualized and derogatory in its depiction of and treatment towards both animated and real women. It's a design that becomes emblematic of a larger problem, which isn't necessarily fair to the game or cognizant of its artistic influences, but was basically inevitable in a more gender-conscious climate.

I strongly disagree that the larger trend of gamers becoming cognizant of gaming's gender problems (of which character depictions are just a small part) counts as being "too PC" or should be considered a bad thing...

dsheinem wrote:I think that, because the character is so extremely designed, it struck a nerve in people who see much of gaming as a whole as overly-sexualized and derogatory in its depiction of and treatment towards both animated and real women.

This is really nothing new...



...and I think that the "extremely designed" characters are more emblematic of fantasy art than video games.