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I think that only collectors who get little return on their investments could get upset about this. The whole business is overpriced, that's why piracy exists in the first place.
They could make a game that costs 10 billion dollars. They will not sell 1 copy. Get it?
Lower the prices, it will hurt piracy. people can buy more games. More profit for everyone. everybody is happy except the pirates.
Am I so smart or is everybody else so dumb?
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d123456 wrote:Image

Then again:

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I think that only collectors who get little return on their investments could get upset about this. The whole business is overpriced, that's why piracy exists in the first place.
They could make a game that costs 10 billion dollars. They will not sell 1 copy. Get it?
Lower the prices, it will hurt piracy. people can buy more games. More profit for everyone. everybody is happy except the pirates.
Am I so smart or is everybody else so dumb?
Your images don't really apply to old ROMs, mainly modern music.

How would lowering the prices upset the pirates at all? It sure would make it easier for buyers but companies would lose money as long as people are still illegaly downloading recentely released games. Lowering the prices would not stop them
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I don't think VC games are too overpriced and get a warm fuzzy feeling knowing I am the legitimate owner of these games, I also like to play them on my TV with the wiimote controllers and with minimal fuss.
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Isn't there some rule about X amount of years before something that is copyrighted becomes public domain?
I know with comic books the companies put out mini series of titles and characters not recently used to avoid this happening.

I think that if the company is not making money off (as of two years ago) of the product anymore i.e. NES SNES Gen Sat etc then the roms should be legal. Now with VC and other similar services (joysticks with games built in) that makes me feel like I am stealing if I play a rom since I can still purchase it from the original company.

As for ROMs hurting collectors, I have to disagree. I know that I would not pay a large sum of money on a game that was rare and fun if I never played it just because. I have hunt down games on ebay because I played the rom and wanted the real thing, therefore paying a collector an inflated price.
I do play some roms, but the games I really want I buy through the VC or remakes.

Also, as for VC games downloaded moving on to the next console - I have a friend who writes for a gaming site and he did an interview where some big wig at Nintendo stated that all downloaded content is not associated with the console but instead your Nintendo account and any game you own you own. He took this to mean that any game you download since it shows up on your Nintendo account online (at Nintendo.com) that those games will be accessible for you to DL whenever you want on whatever system. He also thinks that the current Wii and DS games that get registered online may do the same when they become equivalent to VC games.
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SpaceBooger wrote:Also, as for VC games downloaded moving on to the next console - I have a friend who writes for a gaming site and he did an interview where some big wig at Nintendo stated that all downloaded content is not associated with the console but instead your Nintendo account and any game you own you own. He took this to mean that any game you download since it shows up on your Nintendo account online (at Nintendo.com) that those games will be accessible for you to DL whenever you want on whatever system. He also thinks that the current Wii and DS games that get registered online may do the same when they become equivalent to VC games.
I'm talking about when Nintendo stops supporting its current online service for a newer "better" online service. Will you be able to transfer all that data to a new console? After someone spends hundreds of dollars on downloadable content I wouldn't want to risk it. For example, I made the mistake of downloading games for my fifth gen iPod video. At $5.00+ at piece they add up real quick. When I bought a new iPod Classic some of my favorite games weren't compatible with the iPod Classic so I got screwed. I will not buy anything that isn't disc or cart based anymore, lesson learned. The way Apple and Nintendo mirror each other I would be wary if I were you. Up until the Wii Nintendo hasn't had the best record in the backwards compatibilty dept. Song downloads are different IMO because the MP3 format is universal and transferrable, even then I prefer disc.
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corn619 wrote: I'm talking about when Nintendo stops supporting its current online service for a newer "better" online service. Will you be able to transfer all that data to a new console?
Yes

And people keep saying that there is no harm in 1 person downloading a rom, but there are clearly a a lot more than one person doing it
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Chrono wrote:
corn619 wrote: I'm talking about when Nintendo stops supporting its current online service for a newer "better" online service. Will you be able to transfer all that data to a new console?
Yes

And people keep saying that there is no harm in 1 person downloading a rom, but there are clearly a a lot more than one person doing it
I dont think its bad to have a rom that is no longer in circulation (not being sold by the main company - used stores and ebay does not count) but with VC and other legal ways to play the games again roms are not cool.
Like I said, if not for some roms I would have never sought out and purchased some retro games from ebay, but with VC I can cheaply buy games for a couple bucks and try it - saved me $35 for the game and the cost of a SNES.
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bobbynewmarkiii wrote:
D.D.D. wrote:For at least 5 years now I have been playing all my emulated games on my TV in the living room with real controllers (SNES, PS2, GC, N64, Saturn, etc).
You must have a crap load of wires. I pity you.
You know you can use wireless controllers with USB adapters, right?
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Chrono wrote:
corn619 wrote: I'm talking about when Nintendo stops supporting its current online service for a newer "better" online service. Will you be able to transfer all that data to a new console?
Yes

And people keep saying that there is no harm in 1 person downloading a rom, but there are clearly a a lot more than one person doing it
When people start getting fucked out of hundreds of dollars worth of games don't say I didn't warn you.
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There is an idea that i heard floating around called 'forward and delete'. It basically means that companies should develop systems to ensure people cant have backups of the original work once they sell/rent it to someone else.

So I was thinking, remember the old playstation consoles, with memory cards that you couldnt use on other devices? Why not have one of those cards, and... get this, remove the ability to copy, but keep the ability to cut and paste.

Sure, some people will try circumvent the technology (rom readers anyone?), but by know these companies should know how to deal with these peeps.
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