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Luke wrote:

o.pwuaioc wrote:Brian Wilson composed Pet Sounds in order to "one up" Rubber Soul, (and he later admitted that he didn't quite achieve that), and then when Revolver came out, he began composing music for Smile (which didn't see a release until the 2004), but then gave up after the Beatles released Sgt. Pepper.

Brian Wilson is drugged out crazy funny. True story, while at a California restaurant Bono of U2 noticed Wilson, ran over to him and began to tell Wilson how much his work influenced his own and that he had always been a fan of Wilson.

Wilson replied by asking Bono for a diet coke.

That's not drugged out. That's just treating Bono like he deserves.

Hobie-wan wrote:There's this thing called debstep that a (not very good) guy has become the face for? Dubstep everything!

tell me more

DinnerX wrote:I've read "I am the Walrus" was intentionally gibberish to mess with people who were over-analysing the beatle's lyrics.

I just love the weird sound of the song.

Now thats some sense of humor

None the less, if I was in a band I won't make fun or mess with my fans because I live off them,
thats a bit like Kojima making a crazy MGS saying you guys like this game too much, snap out of it hahaha

kingmohd84 wrote:

DinnerX wrote:I've read "I am the Walrus" was intentionally gibberish to mess with people who were over-analysing the beatle's lyrics.

I just love the weird sound of the song.

Now thats some sense of humor

None the less, if I was in a band I won't make fun or mess with my fans because I live off them,
thats a bit like Kojima making a crazy MGS saying you guys like this game too much, snap out of it hahaha

uh...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul8j9I90ueM&#t=1m07s

Ultimately the beatles remain popular because of their excellent songwriting skills. Just look at the catalog of their music and you see hit after hit after hit!

kingmohd84 wrote:

Hobie-wan wrote:There's this thing called debstep that a (not very good) guy has become the face for? Dubstep everything!

tell me more

Well, I don't like Skrillex. He's become the popular face of dubstep, but every one of this songs I've listened to part of annoy me in some way. I don't think I've ever made it all the way through one. Now there are 'dubstep remixes' of everything on youtube. Some are fun, some are not. I just think there are better options out there. I'm a little behind on checking out these shows.

Hobie-wan wrote:Conversely, I don't care for Jimi Henrix. But I do at least appreciate his use of distorted guitar that is now the standard way to incorporate electric guitars in rock and pop music.

I concur. I do get very sick of people claiming he is the best guitarist ever, however. He was innovative, but there are many guitarists who could be argued to be "better", especially in the area of technique.

marurun wrote:

Hobie-wan wrote:Conversely, I don't care for Jimi Henrix. But I do at least appreciate his use of distorted guitar that is now the standard way to incorporate electric guitars in rock and pop music.

I concur. I do get very sick of people claiming he is the best guitarist ever, however. He was innovative, but there are many guitarists who could be argued to be "better", especially in the area of technique.

Jimi gets all the love because he was one of the biggest pioneers of electric guitar. But honestly I've always felt his music just wasn't that great. Personally I thought the cover of Purple Haze that Billy Joel did when he was in town beats the pants off the original.

Speaking of Brian Wilson, anyone getting the new Beach Boys Album tomorrow?

Of course I can't find it anywhere on the internet now, but about a decade ago I read a really interesting article analyzing the use of wide spaces in between pitches in the Beatles' melodies and the spatial patterns those pitches created when they were strung together into a melodic line. Basically, imagine looking at the notes on some sheet music and drawing lines to connect them to show the patterns in the rises and falls. It hypothesized that the patterns the Beatles created were so unbelievably catchy because of the use of large jumps in pitches (which the article believed to be intrinsically attractive to the human ear) and the metaphorical "shapes" they created. I remember it specifically used Radiohead as an example a current band that successfully used this technique.

Wait. I think I might have found it, although now it's on about.com? Who knows. But the good part starts with, wouldn't you know it, Brian Wilson:

http://guitar.about.com/od/songwriting/ ... lody_3.htm

Anyway, I thought that was a pretty awesome theory when I read about it. I enjoy the Beatles quite a lot, and it's because there's something about their melodies that feels amazing when you sing them. It's hard to put into words. Sometimes leitmotifs just transcend something and strike you as brilliant. Sometimes a note feels totally right where it's placed. That happens with many Beatles songs for me.

It happens with a lot of early video game music too, because those chiptunes were working with such limited resources (small numbers of channels, few possible sounds and/or available pitches, etcetera) that they had to be carried by amazing melodies and counter-melodies, as opposed to being driven by sustained notes, complex chords, or subtle blendings of sounds. If done right, of course. This can also be a recipe for disaster.