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ZeroAX wrote:the ipad lasts more than 7hours? Really? didn't know that. I'm surprised.


um kingmohd84... the thing is the ipad costs 200+ € more than a good netbook.
I thought it was up to 10hrs.... justifying it's price however is a whole other discussion
A netbook that costs 200€ less is able to do more...
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I hope this thread doesn't turn into an apple VS PC flamewar. So I'm going to tiptoe, like a ballerina in stealth mode.

I've fiddled around with my cousin's iPad and it has this racing game and the graphics are awesome enough. I'd say it looks like dreamcast or Ps2 level, but crisper. Unfortunately, I don't think that one little game proves anything, as the iPad could be capable of better graphics but no developer has made any game that would show it.

As for the netbook, you may be confusing netbooks with laptops in terms of battery life. There are netbooks that use 9 cel batteries that can reach 8+ hrs easy. And they're pretty capable machines that can do anything a desktop PC should outside of play high end games and HD video (the current crop of Atom based netbooks have performance levels similar to the high end P3s/low end P4s + HT), but they get killed when it comes to graphics because most of them have an intel 950 or 3150 graphics chipset, which can't even output 720p youtube videos without turning into a stuttery mess. The ones with an ION tend to be expensive to the point that you'd be better off just buying a laptop.
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ZeroAX

Apple's battery life consumption changes highly between one purpose and the other.
If you play music and browse the internet, I bet it lasts 7 or more hours of constant use, depends on the brightness of the screen.

if you play simpler games(puzzles) it might last less not sure how long
if you play 3D games the battery drains quicker, not sure how long it will last, but maybe 3 hours of constant 3d gaming?

I can't say if ipad is better than a netbook
I never used netbooks, but I can say the ipad can let me do a lot more stuff on the go than my laptop, and the price is very justifiable.

Some people would say ipad is useless, but you will know that the larger screen would make a world of difference.
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kingmohd84 wrote: but I can say the ipad can let me do a lot more stuff on the go than my laptop, and the price is very justifiable.
I'm not going to argue with the rest, but what exactly can an ipad do that a laptop can't? Other than higher portability that is.
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My iPod Touch is pretty much in my pocket all the time. I don't think of it in the same way as my PSP or DS, but it certainly takes up a chunk of my on-the-go gaming. The Street Fighter IV app is actually quite nice. Very fluent, very true to the series. Probly the only great fighting app available right now. I mostly play apps that take advantage of the fact that its a Touch, like Time Crisis, and gyro-sensor racing games

I will admit, I would enjoy it a lot more if it had buttons. Like, actual buttons. I'm surprised nobody has made a controller thing that you could dock your iPod Touch into. App developers could release updates providing support for said "controller dock." One can only hope.
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kingmohd84 wrote: but I can say the ipad can let me do a lot more stuff on the go than my laptop, and the price is very justifiable.
I'm not going to argue with the rest, but what exactly can an ipad do that a laptop can't? Other than higher portability that is.
There is a misunderstanding

I didn't mean the laptop is not as capable(its the other way around), I meant that its more convenient to do it on the ipad.

imagine what is easier, reading your sms on your cell phone or checking your e-mail on your laptop in the car.
This is how i feel the difference is.

With the laptop, its heavier, bulkier, lasts less. I need to settle it some place. Launch the OS, open the browse e-mail client.

With the ipad its just few taps.

Don't take me wrong, I wish the laptop's capabilities are stuffed into the ipad's convenience .
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You got a point there.

But you see the thing is... for me at least.

The ipad can do some of the stuff a netbook/laptop can do (a netbook is just a weak laptop. For example I could code on a netbook. I can run Microsoft's development tools on mine. I can't do that on the ipad) and be a lot more portable.

I can understand most people don't have my needs. They use their computers mainly for internet browsing and email. So they would like to have a highly portable device for that. But ain't a smartphone excellent for that? I know iphone is very good, and I'm amazed how easy it is to browse the internet and check my emails on my android phone. And thanks to swype it is just as easy to write on it. Even long pieces of text.

So I don't see what I would do with a gadget that ain't as portable as my phone, but also not as powerful as my netbook. Perhaps if you lack both a smartphone and a netbook, it is a good solution. But for me I found the netbook+smartphone combo to better suit my needs.
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I am a bit confused too between the ipad's place between the laptop and the smart phone.

The way I see it, a smart phone is a different device. Its a phone , and you can get quick access to the internet, like blackberry. But there are certain things with the ipad that it can do better

1) gaming- due to larger screen, ipad runs both iphone and ipad games. iphone runs only iphone games

2)Browsing-its much more enjoyable to browse using an ipad over iphone due to screen size.

3)Reading-I didn't buy ipad for this but I am amazed how well it works. Reading on my ipad, even blogs and articles, are much better than reading on my laptop, due to ipad's book like design

4)Video-I am not sure if any one would watch full movies on ipad or ipod, but either way the ipad s better again to due larger screen size be it youtube or The Godfather.

5) Almost any creativity or creation software(any software you use to produce output like photo-editing , word processing, etc) is better again because the larger screen gives you more space to work. Think of photoshop used on a 13 inch scren, then compare it to a 30 inch screen.

again, iphone/smart phone , is designed for quick access when necessary. iPad makes the actually experience enjoyable.

sure the iphone is more portable, but the only place i think i can't take my ipad with me is to the supermarket or to a fancy restaurant. Otherwise, in the car, in a coffee shop, on bed, even in the toilet its just as portable.

The thing that is better with a smart phone over an ipad is audio. You will look stupid carrying an ipad with ear plugs and listening to music. Reminds me of the 80's when people used to carry the boom box over their shoulders to listen to music. It just doesn't work, especially on the go. Unless you make a mount for it in the car or the room you are using it in,
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kingmohd84 wrote:
1) gaming- due to larger screen, ipad runs both iphone and ipad games. iphone runs only iphone games

so true, but the thing is no developer will say no to iphone's 60 million install base (even though, judging my how many people I know who update their iphone EVERY year, this install base could be a lot smaller in reality....anyway) in order to develop exclusively for the 5 million install base of the ipad. So ipad games are just iphone games on a bigger screen.

Which is a shame, I think it is a perfect platform for strategy games and adventure games.


Believe it or not, that Red Alert game made me want one....until I saw the price tag :P



I think that is another thing it has going against it. People find it easier to justify a high price tag on a smartphone.
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kingmohd84 wrote:I am a bit confused too between the ipad's place between the laptop and the smart phone.

The way I see it, a smart phone is a different device. Its a phone , and you can get quick access to the internet, like blackberry. But there are certain things with the ipad that it can do better

1) gaming- due to larger screen, ipad runs both iphone and ipad games. iphone runs only iphone games
iPad games are just ports of iPhone games...
kingmohd84 wrote:
2)Browsing-its much more enjoyable to browse using an ipad over iphone due to screen size.
Resolution of iPad is only slightly larger than iPhone 4's retina screen. 1024 x 768 compared 960 x 640.
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3)Reading-I didn't buy ipad for this but I am amazed how well it works. Reading on my ipad, even blogs and articles, are much better than reading on my laptop, due to ipad's book like design
Reading is improved on the iPhone 4 with the books app, plus the iPhone 4 fits in my pocket. iPad doesn't.
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4)Video-I am not sure if any one would watch full movies on ipad or ipod, but either way the ipad s better again to due larger screen size be it youtube or The Godfather.
Incorrect, the iPad utilises a 4:3 aspect ratio. The iPhone uses a 3:2 ratio which will mean that the letterbox is smaller, not ideal but I know I'd go for less letter boxing rather than cutting the edges of the video off.

Regarding the picture showing Star Trek working fine on the iPad, it was photoshopped to make it appear fine, they nudged the actors closer together to get the impression of a widescreen image. If you put the same scene on an iPad it would cut half of Spock's face off.
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5) Almost any creativity or creation software(any software you use to produce output like photo-editing , word processing, etc) is better again because the larger screen gives you more space to work. Think of photoshop used on a 13 inch scren, then compare it to a 30 inch screen.
I'll give you this one, but the creativity software available for IOS isn't exactly stellar. It still boggles my mind as to why they didn't just put OS X on it. I just can't understand Apple's logic in this completely dumb decision.
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again, iphone/smart phone , is designed for quick access when necessary. iPad makes the actually experience enjoyable.

sure the iphone is more portable, but the only place i think i can't take my ipad with me is to the supermarket or to a fancy restaurant. Otherwise, in the car, in a coffee shop, on bed, even in the toilet its just as portable.

The thing that is better with a smart phone over an ipad is audio. You will look stupid carrying an ipad with ear plugs and listening to music. Reminds me of the 80's when people used to carry the boom box over their shoulders to listen to music. It just doesn't work, especially on the go. Unless you make a mount for it in the car or the room you are using it in,
There is no use for a non-OSX iPad, at all. It just shouldn't exist as a product. You might as well get an iPod Touch if you don't want the phone side of the device.
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