Medal of Honor: Modern Warfare Ripoff Edition

[Ack]

FPS titles in Vietnam have been tried, but they don't really work. You have to consider, who do you play as:

Americans:

You fall prey to booby traps and take random sniper fire. In one level, you might be forced to do tunnel rat duty, in which you will be armed with a revolver and a knife, and must fight in tunnels, where you will also face booby traps as well as VC fighters who know the tunnels and the odd insect or wild animal.

When you do end up in a major battle against North Vietnamese, expect massive numbers of troops with an almost fanatical devotion to their cause. Towards the end of the game, you will begin receiving Soviet-manufactured artillery and tank fire.

At any time, ARVN support will be nonexistant, and the locals will hardly talk to you. You will sometimes kill civilians, either by accident or because you wrongly thought they were VC, NVA, or Communist sympathizers. Sometimes you will do so simply because ordered or to vent frustration from having watched some of your best friends getting blown apart by Bouncing Betties earlier that morning. Most get marked as enemy soldiers anyway.

Towards the end of the campaign, drug use will be rampant, the military will be breaking down on racial lines, and morale will continue to plummet as nobody wants to be the last guy killed in 'Nam. If you are captured, you may be tortured or treated relatively well by your VC counterparts before being turned over to the NVA, who then torture you. If you make it home, you are generally treated like dirt by both sides of the political spectrum.

Viet Cong(National Liberation Front):

You spend most of the game in tunnels or hiding in jungle, waiting to take the occasional potshot at US or ARVN forces. Depending on your location, you will be under constant artillery fire or under attack from airstrikes. You sneak into villages and towns to take supplies and you are required to sing patriotic propaganda songs, partially about Vietnamese might, partly about the greatness of Communism, and watch political plays on the same subjects. You lack equipment, and if caught in the open by Americans, you get mowed down by vastly superior firepower.

Certain levels may involve becoming a spy, serving as a worker on an American base while supplying intelligence to NLF forces. If caught, you are either executed immediately by US forces, or given over to the ARVN, who torture and then execute you, unless you turn yourself over, in which case you become a Kit Carson for the Americans.

You will have a massive attack during the Tet holiday, 1968, but unless you're in Hue, you'll be beaten back pretty quick. If you're in Hue, you go nuts and torture or kill many of the decadent South Vietnamese civilians in the city.

North Vietnamese(NVA or PAVN):

You are a pawn in Ho Chi Minh's glorious army, willing to give your life to remove the American invader and destroy the decadent false government in South Vietnam, unifying the nation under glorious Communism. You will be sent in massive waves to throw yourself at the enemy and are fully expected to die for your country in droves, unless your facing ARVN, who almost always quickly flee the battlefield. This becomes especially true once you acquire Soviet-manufactured artillery and tanks.

When engaging in battles against American forces, expect artillery, naval gunfire support, air strikes, napalm, and Willy Peter. You will not win a battle: The Americans never lost a battle in Vietnam, but even if Ho Chi Minh losses men at a ratio of ten to one, he will still win the war. Much of your time is spent studying propaganda.

You may also get a chance to wander down the Ho Chi Minh Trail, in which case you will walk nine miles a day and come under sporadic airstrikes or enemy fire in Laos, or later, Cambodia. Eventually you will surge across the DMZ during the Easter Offensive, utilizing Soviet weaponry against ARVN forces.

South Vietnam(ARVN):

You sit on your ass and let the Americans do the work. If you do get sent to battle, you pull out each night and retreat at the first sign of enemy contact: after all, it looks bad if you lose soldiers. Most of your intelligence is handled by an organization largely compromised, or gained through torture.

Your highest ranking officers will engage in constant power struggles with each other, most are either corrupt or spies, and many soldiers will be selling equipment to the other side, unless you are in the South Vietnamese Marine Corp, in which case you've got balls of steel and a great relationship with your COVAN, or are a South Vietnamese Ranger, in which case you've still got guts.

Vietnamese civilian:

No matter who wins, you lose.

Hmm...actually, that might make an interesting game, but it wouldn't be easy, and folks on every side of the political spectrum would probably be offended by something in it. Vietnam's not nice subject matter however you view it. You could also consider Montagnard, South Korean, or Australian forces for levels. Too bad there's no way you could really convey the heat, Malaria, Jungle Rot, etc. in that game.

[Weekend_Warrior]

What's with all the talk about Vietnam? The new MoH is supposed to be based in Afghanistan.

As for the game artwork, I wouldn't mind the beard if they dropped the backwards hat and sunglasses. Seems like EA is trying too hard to make the character look cool and appeal to the modern-day teenager.

If this is the final artwork, then I would also expect a lot of stupid and cheesy ass dialogue to go with the game like, "You're goin' down, bitches!" and "Suck on dis grenade, Muthafucka!"

[pepharytheworm]

the Vietnam War is considered one of the most brutal, confusing and demoralizing wars the United States has been involved in.

I always consider the American Civil War that. But thats mostly because we were killing our own country men. Not to mention every shot meant you were either dead or a cripple. Nothing like watching your own leg being sawed off with no pain killers just alcohol because your cousin shot you.

[(-_-)]

What's with all the talk about Vietnam? The new MoH is supposed to be based in Afghanistan.

As for the game artwork, I wouldn't mind the beard if they dropped the backwards hat and sunglasses. Seems like EA is trying too hard to make the character look cool and appeal to the modern-day teenager.

If this is the final artwork, then I would also expect a lot of stupid and cheesy ass dialogue to go with the game like, "You're goin' down, bitches!" and "Suck on dis grenade, Muthafucka!"

Is he not modeled after an actual person? It was posted in this thread even.

[reina]

I haven't been interested in FPS since Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, but since my bf bought CoD4 (then CoD5 and Modern Warfare 2) I've been drawn into it.

'The most popular military shooter to date, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, took some criticism from reviewers for having a highly implausible storyline.'

I actually like that part of Modern Warfare 2. Also, I loved being a SAS rather than an American Marine or Ranger, and I liked being on the enemies side as well. It gives you a more "objective" point of view and since the storyline is unreal there aren't any polical conflicts to argue about.

So as far as I am concerned, if they are trying a more realistic aproach on MoH, I am not interested.

[countcowden]

The rumour mill says next years COD i.e the Treyarch version will be set in vietnam.

[puke_face]

A shame. I loved Medal of Honor and Medal of Honor: Underground - now, I'm seeing the series reduced to copy-catting. Pathetic. Why'd they have to drag the MOH name through the mud? Couldn't they have made a new franchise?

And why directly take off on MW? Couldn't they have made this new Medal of Honor more interesting by making it take place during the Vietnam War? Maybe used it to paint a picture of a war so rarely seen? Sigh...

I've wondered the same for quite some time now, or maybe even a WW1 style with a good multiplayer... I'd like to see something different than a modern or WWII combat.

[Limewater]

I always consider the American Civil War that. But thats mostly because we were killing our own country men.

Own countrymen? The south seceded. They don't call it "the war of Northern Aggression" for nothing.

[Xonticus]

Even if this is a cookie cutter MW2 ripoff level for level exactly, I would buy it over mw2 any day on the pc for the dedicated server support. That is the reason I did not buy it, and will continue to support any efforts by the MoH and Battlefield guys.

Oh and that guys on the cover is a real Special Forces guy:
http://www.destructoid.com/medal-of-hon ... 6698.phtml

[the7k]

You fall prey to booby traps and take random sniper fire. In one level, you might be forced to do tunnel rat duty, in which you will be armed with a revolver and a knife, and must fight in tunnels, where you will also face booby traps as well as VC fighters who know the tunnels and the odd insect or wild animal.

When you do end up in a major battle against North Vietnamese, expect massive numbers of troops with an almost fanatical devotion to their cause. Towards the end of the game, you will begin receiving Soviet-manufactured artillery and tank fire.

At any time, ARVN support will be nonexistant, and the locals will hardly talk to you. You will sometimes kill civilians, either by accident or because you wrongly thought they were VC, NVA, or Communist sympathizers. Sometimes you will do so simply because ordered or to vent frustration from having watched some of your best friends getting blown apart by Bouncing Betties earlier that morning. Most get marked as enemy soldiers anyway.

Towards the end of the campaign, drug use will be rampant, the military will be breaking down on racial lines, and morale will continue to plummet as nobody wants to be the last guy killed in 'Nam. If you are captured, you may be tortured or treated relatively well by your VC counterparts before being turned over to the NVA, who then torture you. If you make it home, you are generally treated like dirt by both sides of the political spectrum.

Every bit of that sounds like it could make for a great game, if pulled off with enough class and dedication.