General Chaos wrote: Actually, there are a lot of criminals I really like.
Again, Whaa?
I'm obviously not talking about child molesters and the similarly unsavory folk. I'm referring more to the socially conscious kind (think Robin Hood, or for a more contemporary example, graffiti writers).
Because of my profession I've also had occasion to meet and spend time with a lot of different people, criminals included. Not withstanding the fact that "criminal" is a malleable term that changes with time, offenders (such that they are) are not all without redeeming qualities.
General Chaos wrote:
I'm obviously not talking about child molesters and the similarly unsavory folk. I'm referring more to the socially conscious kind (think Robin Hood, or for a more contemporary example, graffiti writers).
So you are fine if someone tags up your car or house?
General Chaos wrote:
I'm obviously not talking about child molesters and the similarly unsavory folk. I'm referring more to the socially conscious kind (think Robin Hood, or for a more contemporary example, graffiti writers).
So you are fine if someone tags up your car or house?
No, but the type of writers (or taggers) I'm referring to have a social agenda, and tagging random cars isn't part of that. It's about resistance to power and control that is perceived by many as unfair and arbitrary. Indeed in many places graffiti is not gang-related. A recent research presentation I went to highlighted some interesting findings including the fact that in some parts of NY having a well known tag on one's door can add to property value. Similarly, some people are now hiring otherwise criminal taggers to write on their cars. The west coast is a different story. In LA graffiti is in fact largely gang-related. In either case one can derive the point that "crime" and criminals are more complex than one might suspect.
Of course, I'm more than willing to concede that some criminals are just idiots. Of course, some [insert any classification of person here] are as well.
After hurricane katrina hit Greenville, hundreds of houses were destroyed and abandoned. I was in undergrad, and tagged plenty of them. I'm a hypocrite.
fastbilly1 wrote:I understand where you are coming from GeneralChaos, I have participated in gardening graffiti and have met people who have been arrested for it.
That sounds awesome. I'm looking into this movement in Toronto now.
Luke, you mean you tagged these destroyed homes--like the rubble? I'm curious to hear if this was something a lot of people were doing.
fastbilly1 wrote:I understand where you are coming from GeneralChaos, I have participated in gardening graffiti and have met people who have been arrested for it.
That sounds awesome. I'm looking into this movement in Toronto now.
Luke, you mean you tagged these destroyed homes--like the rubble? I'm curious to hear if this was something a lot of people were doing.
Half of my apartment complex was destroyed by the flood, my buildings were all brick. Hollowed out 2 story buildings for streets. After a few got tagged, it caught on. Then there were the homes, hollowed out, but the walls remained. I stuck with the apartment buildings, no chance of hurting anyone's wallet. Plus, I hated the apartment management.
Luke wrote:
Half of my apartment complex was destroyed by the flood, my buildings were all brick. Hollowed out 2 story buildings for streets. After a few got tagged, it caught on. Then there were the homes, hollowed out, but the walls remained. I stuck with the apartment buildings, no chance of hurting anyone's wallet. Plus, I hated the apartment management.
Wow. I'm drawing quite a visual here. It's eerie sounding.
It still is very eerie. A lot of Greenville is still a ghost town. Next time I head over to that side of town, I'll take pictures. Possibly tomorrow.
I was lucky during the flood. Two blocks away from our building the first floor of every apartment was flooded. Four blocks down, the water covered the roofs. The water came up to my sliding door, barely trickling into my apt. We had fun though. Got a keg, hooked up inner tubes and chords to our 4 wheel drive SUVs, and took people for rides, until the police made us stop. Our street flooded when it rained, so you could imagine how flooded the streets were during a flood.
