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brunoafh wrote:

AgentBurnwood wrote:Number Munchers

Fuck yeah, I used to play that all the time, but it's on Windows too. I used to play Word Munchers constantly too. Was pretty young though, in like Elementary School.

OMG! Number Munchers ruled!

noiseredux wrote:

brunoafh wrote:

AgentBurnwood wrote:Number Munchers

Fuck yeah, I used to play that all the time, but it's on Windows too. I used to play Word Munchers constantly too. Was pretty young though, in like Elementary School.

OMG! Number Munchers ruled!

It still does! My Elementary school also had Apple II's for many years after they originally came out. I still get my Number Munchers, Oregon Trail, and Odell Lake fix through Firefox here:

http://www.virtualapple.org/numbermunchersdisk.html

Nintendo Gamecube

Mainly because I don't have all that many games for it, and since I bought my Wii it has been sitting in my closet gathering dust. I'm hoping to find a Game Boy Player for it one day. Then I'll have a use for it again.

Runner-up would be my Sega 32X. I have 2 games for it - MK2 and After Burner, and they're hardly worth hooking up all the extra wires and crap over. MK2 on Genny is good enough for me most of the time

Weekend_Warrior wrote:Runner-up would be my Sega 32X. I have 2 games for it - MK2 and After Burner, and they're hardly worth hooking up all the extra wires and crap over. MK2 on Genny is good enough for me most of the time

After Burner on the 32X poops all over the Genesis version.

The Wii. I seriously haven't booted it up in a year. It's just sitting on a table, unhooked, and doing absolutely nothing. Maybe The Last Story would change that, but even I'm not so sure about that.

Runner-Up: The Tiger R-Zone.

I'm definitely coming to this thread pretty late but maybe someone can clear this up for me:

Are the criticisms supposed to be levied at the hardware itself? Mostly I see complaints about the software library (especially in the case of the Wii and Gamecube which, personally, I balk at) as though it were undivorceable from the game console.

If we are only criticizing hardware, I would have to say the PS2. Compared to the gamecube and the oXbox it is a mess - it is slow, fragile and clunky. The controller is outdated and prone to internal damage (that plastic rattle sound that drives me nuts) and it is annoying that component out is a video option...but that no internal solution was provided for games that do not support component visuals.

If we treat software and hardware the same, I would say the 3DS. The visuals are amazing but the thing is quite uncomfortable and the library is...well...I'm not really sure why Nintendo released the thing so soon. The developers obviously were not ready.

Flake wrote:If we are only criticizing hardware, I would have to say the PS2. Compared to the gamecube and the oXbox it is a mess - it is slow, fragile and clunky. The controller is outdated and prone to internal damage (that plastic rattle sound that drives me nuts) and it is annoying that component out is a video option...but that no internal solution was provided for games that do not support component visuals.

I see what you're saying, I feel the same way about the N64. That one was really a shit system in almost every way. But the games, oh man… the games just balance everything out. I've never owned a PS2, but from what I've heard, the same may apply here.

N64, hardware wise, was no issue. Sure you can argue for the controller sucking, but the console itself was a 3D powerhouse and the cartridges were FAR more durable than any disc. I still think 3D games look far better on it than on PSX/Saturn.

Only real problem, hardware wise, was the tiny texture cache.

NES and Playstation were unreliable as hell and couldn't hold a candle to their competitors in terms of power. I'd say they're pretty shitty hardware wise.

AppleQueso wrote:NES... unreliable as hell and couldn't hold a candle to their competitors in terms of power. I'd say they're pretty shitty hardware wise.

I don't really agree. The competitors to the NES, at least in N.America, was the Atari 2600, Atari 7800, and the SMS. The NES beat the heck out of the 7800. The 2600 was only a competitor because of its huge install base. Of course, the color count on the SMS trounced the NES. I am not sure about the other parts of the hardware.

While the NES did have that blinking problem with a lot of systems after a few years of use, it was nowhere near as bad as a number of the disc-based systems in terms of reliability (Turbo CD, Turboduo, Sega CD, Jaguar CD, PS1, Dreamcast, PS2 and X-Box 360 all have reliability issues, some more than others). The NES was not prone to completely crapping out; just acting finicky when reading carts. It is an issue that can be fixed fairly easily without having to replace anything. You can't say that about any of those systems I just mentioned.

Breetai wrote:

AppleQueso wrote:NES... unreliable as hell and couldn't hold a candle to their competitors in terms of power. I'd say they're pretty shitty hardware wise.

I don't really agree. The competitors to the NES, at least in N.America, was the Atari 2600, Atari 7800, and the SMS. The NES beat the heck out of the 7800. The 2600 was only a competitor because of its huge install base. Of course, the color count on the SMS trounced the NES. I am not sure about the other parts of the hardware.

While the NES did have that blinking problem with a lot of systems after a few years of use, it was nowhere near as bad as a number of the disc-based systems in terms of reliability (Turbo CD, Turboduo, Sega CD, Jaguar CD, PS1, Dreamcast, PS2 and X-Box 360 all have reliability issues, some more than others). The NES was not prone to completely crapping out; just acting finicky when reading carts. It is an issue that can be fixed fairly easily without having to replace anything. You can't say that about any of those systems I just mentioned.

The hardware itself, yeah, it was unreliable. Even with a new 72-pin connector in mine, and cleaning my games, I still have the blinkiness sometimes. But it is easily fixed if you know what you're doing. It's hard to explain exactly, you just have to nudge it around and give it a little TLC.

However the game library more than makes up for this annoyance. The NES's game library is amazing and what makes this console so special. One of the best game libraries for any console. The Super Mario Bros. games, Zelda games, Mega Man games, Castlevania games, Metroid, Tetris, Dragon Warriors games, Final Fantasy, R.C. Pro-Am, Contra, Mike Tyson's Punch-Out, and so many more great games

And the controller is classic and innovative at the same time. It feels so much more natural than the awkward joysticks of the Ataris, Commodores, and early PCs. And it definitely feels more natural than the "TV remote" controllers of Intellivision and Colecovision. (Whenever I play any of those old consoles, I use my Genesis controller.) The only problem on NES's controller is the sharp corners which in an adult hand can cause some discomfort after hours of play. But as I said, still a lot better than anything else up to that point.