Breaking Bad Season 3 Starts Tonight

[jfrost]

Giving Gale money would've been a half-measure.

[Jrecee]

Jessee is now doing more or less what Walt tells him to do, and he has turned from rebellious and reckless into faithful and mopey. It also strikes me as inconsistent.

Jesse disregarded everything walt and gus said to him in episode 312 and went to kill the drug dealers. Walt saved his ass just in time, but that put both of them in danger. That left Jesse on the run for however long he could hide for (probably not too long). At that point walt laid out pretty much their only plan in ep 313 and punctuated it with "I saved your life, are you going to save mine". That plan only involved jesse getting walt gale's address, but then shit hit the fan and jesse only had one option. So he killed gale. At that point he is pretty much out of his mind until. . . the end of last nights episode, most of which featured him being. . . reckless. So he doesn't seem faithful to walt to me. And even if he did become walt's loyal servant in the next couple episodes, the stress he's under would make it somewhat understandable.

Why not let Gale in on what's going on and offer him cash?

As has been said, that would've been a half measure. But even so, who's to say walt wouldn't have done exactly that had he gotten to gale's house as planned? But there wasn't time due to how the situation played out. But to me that doesn't seem to be a good move anyway. There's no guarantee gus wouldn't just force gale to cook. Or offer gale even more money. . . he's making 90 million or so off all that meth. And walt only has the money he's making from gus. . . so yeah, that would have been a very risky play.

Why not hold the line on Jessee's behavior?

Which behavior? If you're talking about his attack on the drug dealers, He went to gus to warn him about what jesse planned, that was a pretty bold move. They shook hands, walt drove jesse home, tried to explain himself. . . and that was it. Next thing was jesse using meth and pulling a gun with walt saving his ass. If you're suggesting that walt should have just let jesse be killed. . . maybe. But the episode "Fly" which you said you liked, sort of rekindled the jesse/walt friendship from the end of season 2/beginning season 3. Walt was subtly mentioning "family" towards jesse, which goes back to when he rescued him from the crackhouse. Then at the end he warns him about stealing meth from gus.

Why not skip town with his family and be done with it altogether?

Jr would definitely know something was up at that point. Any hope for getting his family back would be lost, which skyler now fearing for her and her kids lives. Gus would probably end up finding them anyway, and walt is to proud to do that anyway.

Why is he not using more covert methods (like the ricin plan from earlier in the series)?

I'm sure he would if he could. We're at the beginning of this "him before me" storyline, so maybe he will try other things. Right now I think he's in a rush though. Bargaining is pretty much out of the question though. He put it all out there to Gus in 'full measure', there seemed to be a loose agreement that walt would continue cooking, but obviously Walt and Gus' business relationship can't continue, at least on Gus' end. At that point I would be looking at things pretty much the same way; "Ok, reasoning with him didn't help, he tried to have me killed. Then I tried to explain myself to him, and he responded by killing a man in front of me. And now I can never even talk to him again. What are the odds I will survive this?"

And to connect all this killing as the first line of defense stuff to the beginning of the series, it's very similar to where he was with crazy 8. He tried to do things without killing, but if he had gone through with it he would've been dead. He's only alive because he caught the missing piece of the plate before it was too late.

[jfrost]

By the way, it was cool that they discussed which was better between Call of Duty: World at War and Left 4 Dead. Both 2008 games, seems like they haven't forgotten about the series timeline.

[Bradtemple87]

I cant believe I'm saying this, but for tonight EVO Finals are coming before Breaking Bad

[Ziggy]

That's why God invented the DVR!

[Bradtemple87]

That's why God invented the DVR!

I record it at my parents house to watch with my dad. I'm too cheap to pay for cable at my apartment. Based on the Marvel 3 finals I just saw, it was worth it!

[Jrecee]

Looks like hank is gonna get off his ass! But I'm over him treating marie like shit, even if she is annoying.

There are so many things being set up here though. Walt vs gus. Hank and Marie's relationship. Walt and Skylers lie about the gambling. Jesse losing control. Hank and the notebook. Skyler running a money laundering operation. I have no idea where Mike is at in all this.

My guess is that Hank can't make a whole lot out of the technical jargon in the notebook, so he goes to Walt, his brother in law chemist. Then he finds out about walt paying for his treatment, and everything starts coming together.

[Ziggy]

Did you see the trailer for next week's episode?


You see Mike telling Gus that Pinkman is becoming "increasingly incautious". Then you see Walt telling Jesse that they're investigating Gale's murder and they found a fingerprint at the scene. Not sure why they'd be worried about a finger print. The only thing Jesse left at the scene was a knuckle print when he knocked on the door.

For fuck sake, I can't find the 404 trailer anywhere on the net! AMC has a "sneak peak" on their site, but not the trailer for the new episode (the one that they aired on TV after 403).


Anyway, I think there might be two sides to the Hank and Marie thing. Up until now, we figured Hank was acting like a dick to Marie just because of the what happened to him, but there might be more to the story. He might be legitimately upset with Marie but she keeps getting arrested or into trouble with the police. When she got arrested in 403 and called Hank, Hank said "again?" on the phone to her.

[Jrecee]

I think the "again" was in response to her stealing from season 1 and 2. It's more likely that he's upset with her because she's the reason he's in a hospital bed at home. He wanted to stay in the hospital until he could walk.

[Ziggy]

Yeah, but the first open house you saw her at, it seemed as though it definitely wasn't the first time she did that. It was as if she did that a few times before. IDK, maybe not.