What was the last movie you've seen?

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I just came back from seeing Avengers 2 myself. It was great. Whedon's penchant for witty dialog and great humor was all over this thing with plenty of lines getting people in the theater I was in to bust out laughing.

It's everything the first movie was, tons of action, special effects, etc. Though like all things Marvel these days it can be confusing if you're not already familiar with the continuity. I can imagine someone who hasn't been watching these Marvel movies scratching their head throughout much of this film because it draws a lot from what you're expected to already know. It's serialized movie making, not something I'm used to, but I dig it.

There was a lot more going on in this movie than the first, so you have to really pay attention and a LOT of characters get screen time. The movie is in danger of bursting at the seems, but to its credit never actually does. I feel that way sometimes when watching Agents of S.HI.I.E.L.D. too. The Marvel onscreen universe if just getting so freaking big lately with so many characters and so much continuity. That said, everyone got to shine and I never struggled to follow the plot. There are threads that could maybe have been expanded on a bit more (like what the fuck Thor was doing when he just goes off on his own, seemingly to go star in his own movie before returning to this one LOL), but the movie already clocks in at roughly two and a half hours long.

Thor and Iron man get the bulk of the movie's laugh out loud moments, while Hawkeye is the guy you get most emotionally invested in. His role in this movie is much stronger than in the first one. He's the closest the audience gets to a guy with our point of view as the dude with no super powers, something the movie emphasizes. Plus, the fact that he's just more "normal" than the rest of the team. Particularly when contrasted to Black Widow who seems close to dehumanized by what she is and what she does (a theme in Winter Soldier as well). Speaking of her, she's her usual bad ass, gorgeous self in this film, and Hulk does a lot of smashing. He's seriously a fucking force of nature in this movie. Jesus Christ. Cap is still the boy scout who is always preaching to everyone and getting jokes made at his expense (one ends up being a running gag throughout the whole movie). You know these characters by now, and they all pretty much do what you expect of them.

Great movie, it's hard to say if it's better than the first, but it's certainly no worse. The thing is, it's starting to feel like we've seen it all in super hero movies and Age of Ultron doesn't really do anything new, it just does what it does really well. Guardians of the Galaxy is special I think because it was a super hero movie that didn't really have super heroes or even just plain heroes, they were a group of misfits and Han Solo types. And it also had characters that were new to most of the audience. Also, I think Guardians had a bit more of an old school Star Wars movie feel to it than a comic book super hero movie. That "freshness" of Guardians isn't really in Age of Ultron. I think people disappointed with it are just experiencing super hero movie burnout.

I haven't seen this weeks Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. yet, but not much in the movie seemed to tie into the show that I could tell. Although, we get some back story on Black Widow that will resonate more for people who have seen Agent Carter (which just got renewed by the way)

The Ant Man trailer looked awesome

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A few pages back I asked if Avengers: Age of Ultron had a Hulk dick joke in it and someone responded "no".

The line "Have you and Banner been playing hide the zucchini?" has been included in every edit and release so shame on whoever said their wasn't a hulk dick joke.
This movie is the real reason why Joss deleted his twitter account and may be done with Marvel. At least Marvel studios. The movie explains nothing and relies on cgi and one liners. Not good one liners.

To be fair, there were one or two good ones but were also borderline cheap laughs. I loved the first Avengers because although we sorta kinda knew the characters, we didn't see the entire crew as a team until the third act. This movie starts with BOOM POW! and doesn't really develop a story. They fight robots, led by Ultron who explodes when he wants to to become a better Ultron. I know, I have no clue either why he does that.

Here is my biggest complaint: Loki looked silly, but Ultron looks terrible. Yes, it's a comic book movie, but Ultron is a robot, no? So why is his face so horribly animated? When he speaks his jaws should do the "chomp chomp chomp" approach and not try to look like an actual human speaking. They got it right with Red and Green Data, er, Vision, because we know it's a dude trying to be a robot. But if you're a robot, be a robot.

The pacing is terrible, and characters show up for no reason other than to say something witty or to bash some type of robot clone, which isn't explained, brought up or resolved. And the Hulk flies a jet because, why not? I mean Golem get's his arm shot off, so throw what you got at us.

Hulkbuster fight was not good.

On the plus side...

It's a gorgeous movie that flows like a three act movie should. The comedy is too meta for my taste, but when Hawkeye saves the day and says "Not like anyone would notice" you know the writers knew their crowd.

Quicksilver was amazing, and without using many gimmicks to show off his speed. He was quick, and that was it. No hamfisting or over-doing it with him.

As was the Scarlett Witch, who at times made my jaw drop because...Let's just say she is incredibly good looking. Great actress, gorgeous everything, and even does a "Hadoken".

Unfortunately she and Quicksilver were completely underdeveloped, but they are far from a lost cause. If I had the keys to the car, Witch wouldn't do the Hadokens. Her fighting robots undermines her true powers, and I would much rather her just alter reality. Throwing, I dunno, "energy bolts" is cool, but changing reality is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much cooler. And fans of the comics know how important she is to the series, but newcomers will also love her powers if handled correctly.

I know it's a movie and some things have to be explained paint by numbers, but there is an incredible opportunity for the Witch to use her powers without us knowing she is controlling our perceived reality.

Not sure if it was due to legal issues, but I do like the fact that Quick and Witch aren't mutants in the films. Especially due to the line of "No more Mutants" (check House of M if you don't get the reference).

2 stars out of four for this one.
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House of M sucks, and Scarlet Witch sucks because of it.

Also, Andy Serkis' character is supposed to lose an arm. The guy has a prosthetic limb in Marvel's continuity that serves as his primary weapon. I don't know if he'll ever pop up again in any Marvel movie, but it pretty much had to happen.
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Ack wrote:
House of M sucks, and Scarlet Witch sucks because of it.

Also, Andy Serkis' character is supposed to lose an arm. The guy has a prosthetic limb in Marvel's continuity that serves as his primary weapon. I don't know if he'll ever pop up again in any Marvel movie, but it pretty much had to happen.
If he has a character, maybe not just throw him in for three minutes and say a bit about him. For a two and a half hour movie tons of "stuff" happens, but nothing is fleshed out. The movie relies far too much on tons of one-liners (only a few of them funny) as a crutch because they knew the movie didn't have legs to stand on other than showing the characters. It's not terrible, but it certainly isn't good.
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Luke wrote:
Ack wrote:
House of M sucks, and Scarlet Witch sucks because of it.

Also, Andy Serkis' character is supposed to lose an arm. The guy has a prosthetic limb in Marvel's continuity that serves as his primary weapon. I don't know if he'll ever pop up again in any Marvel movie, but it pretty much had to happen.
If he has a character, maybe not just throw him in for three minutes and say a bit about him. For a two and a half hour movie tons of "stuff" happens, but nothing is fleshed out. The movie relies far too much on tons of one-liners (only a few of them funny) as a crutch because they knew the movie didn't have legs to stand on other than showing the characters. It's not terrible, but it certainly isn't good.
I feel like they are trying to spin a lot of plates and it is starting to show its wear and tear. They weaved in stuff from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and tied in characters that will be experienced in numerous future films for characters. The lead-in to Civil War is going to be one of the most difficult things to pull off. If they do so, it will be one of the biggest accomplishments, but I am starting to see the seams fraying. I'm a bit hesitant.
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Luke wrote:
Ack wrote:
Also, Andy Serkis' character is supposed to lose an arm. The guy has a prosthetic limb in Marvel's continuity that serves as his primary weapon. I don't know if he'll ever pop up again in any Marvel movie, but it pretty much had to happen.
If he has a character, maybe not just throw him in for three minutes and say a bit about him.
I actually think the Andy Serkis as Ulysses Klaw part worked fine. They needed vibranium for Ultron and you might as well have someone that it very much tied to it in the comics. It is character development and origin for the Black Panther movie, but I thought he stood alone just fine for Avengers 2.
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I think it's fair to say that A2 is harder to get into for people who aren't as invested in the MCU (which includes looking forward to what's coming up).

The theater by me finally got Ex Machina, which is something I'd been wanting to see since I saw the first trailer. I was not disappointed; I really enjoyed the themes they explored through the movie and the minimalist cast and set kept the focus where it needed to be. I highly recommend it for fans of speculative fiction.
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Last night, I watched:

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The Secret World of Arriety (2010) with my wife and children. Based on a classic of childrens' literature, it is not Studio Ghibli's best film, but it is much better than the vast majority of children's entertainment. It is also beautiful. I recommend it to anyone with small children (or any fan fo Studio Ghibli's work).
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MrPopo wrote:I think it's fair to say that A2 is harder to get into for people who aren't as invested in the MCU (which includes looking forward to what's coming up).
or they're just weird. The movie was great
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I personally found Age of Ultron a mixed bag. It was long but half of it felt like it was left on the cutting room floor, some character motivations were vague/weak at best (the "twins") and the CGI at times seemed cheaper than in previous films. Thor's sojourn grinds the movie to a halt and seems to be there only to set up another Thor movie the world desperately doesn't need. And when X character dies it seems less like an idea crafted in the mind of the screenwriter but more in a meeting between Disney and Fox's lawyers.

Strangely though, unlike other Marvel movies which I think get worse as they enter their final acts, usually as they turn into brain dead action films, the whole city escape thing worked really well here and seemed like a deliberate poke in the eye to Warner Bros over Man of Steel. Here's a group of heroes actually behaving like heroes.

I think overall though Marvel and Whedon had a big ask to top the Avengers. They needed to either go with something more complex and character driven (like Winter Soldier) or they needed to make something bolder (like Guardians). But they just kind of played it safe and made more of the same which left me kind of numb to the movie.

Speaking of supervillains and their mad plans for world domination, I also recently watched Downfall. I find it hard to describe really. Harrowing most likely. It's a work of fiction but it's so powerfully done it will probably enter the popular conscience as the "true" events of those fateful days in 1945. If I had one criticism I'd say that the film is perhaps a bit too soft on Traudl Junge, Hitler's secretary, going so far as to make her something of a heroine, an innocent. Junge herself always claimed to be ignorant about the atrocities the Nazi's perpetrated but I have to call bullshit on that given how close she was to the inner circle.
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