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Yea. My monitor is one of the newer cheaper IPS monitors. I forget what it's called exactly. Not quite as nice in picture quality but not far off and with much lower lag. Closer to TN response times. Probably does have a little more ghosting than a nice gaming TN, but I haven't noticed any with the games I play/videos I've watched.
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@isiolia

Thanks, difference between 30FPS and 60FPS is hardly noticeable , while 15FPS is just bad.

So are TVs , TN or IPS? Which should I get for my next monitor? Is it viewing angle only or does the IPS reproduce a better picture
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RCBH928 wrote:@isiolia
Thanks, difference between 30FPS and 60FPS is hardly noticeable , while 15FPS is just bad.


This is your personal option and not a fact.

The difference between 30FPS to 60FPS is massive to people who are use to 60FPS gaming. At 30FPS things appear jerky to me while 60fps is fluent and smooth.

To me the jump is similar to SD vs HD, when you use SD you say it is fine and it does not matter, you make the jump to HD, then SD suddenly seems sub-par.

Outside of lower graphics compared to PC, frame rate issues are one of the biggest reasons I play multiplats on the PC.

Look at the site, side by side, you are telling me it is 'hardly noticeable'?
http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html

This is just a small box spinning, play a game with lots of action going on, and the difference is monstrous.
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RCBH928 wrote:Thanks, difference between 30FPS and 60FPS is hardly noticeable , while 15FPS is just bad.

So are TVs , TN or IPS? Which should I get for my next monitor? Is it viewing angle only or does the IPS reproduce a better picture


Like emwearz, I feel like 60fps is very noticeable. You get some console games that are - usually racers or 3D fighters, but stuff like first-person games often is in the 25-30fps range, and jumping to ~60fps on PC is big.

TVs are usually IPS or -VA, not TN.

TN isn't just the poorest viewing angle. The technology is also the least capable in terms of color reproduction.
IPS or something isn't critical if you aren't doing graphics work, since having inaccurate colors with banding/etc that shift when you move your head won't matter. Some aren't -that- bad, and most of the gaming-oriented screens are TN due to response time.

Personally, the only TN panel I own is the piece of shit LCD in my '07 Macbook. To me, the extra cost and other downsides of IPS are worth it. It'd depend on your priorities though.
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RCBH928 wrote:@isiolia

Thanks, difference between 30FPS and 60FPS is hardly noticeable , while 15FPS is just bad.

So are TVs , TN or IPS? Which should I get for my next monitor? Is it viewing angle only or does the IPS reproduce a better picture


With all due respect, you need to see an ophthalmologist. :P Generally speaking, I look at 30FPS in gaming as stable, and 60FPS as being more fluid and life-like. Some argue that 60FPS has a synthetic, soap opera appearance. I would argue it depends on the game and particular content being displayed.
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Mmm. Sort of like I don't like the effect of 'motion flow' and other such TV effects. Although in games I've never had a problem with 60fps. Looks good to me.

I think I am just used to 24hz for film/HD content. There's something nice about that slight choppiness. I haven't watched anything like The Hobbit that I was know filmed at a higher fps. Could also be that 'motion flow' like effects just look unnatural. I think they do.
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ZenErik wrote: fps. Could also be that 'motion flow' like effects just look unnatural. I think they do.


They look unnatrual because they're interpeting data that isn't there. Sorta why upscaling generally looks bad too.

Anyways, 60fps or bust for me now. I can stomach a stable 30 perfectly fine even though I find it a bit choppy. Anything below that or any dips in general, even at high fps, just annoy the hell out of me. Give me a rock solid framerate, as high as it can be.
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ZenErik wrote:Mmm. Sort of like I don't like the effect of 'motion flow' and other such TV effects.


"The Soap Opera Effect"

http://news.cnet.com/8301-33620_3-57410 ... -than-you/
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It is kinda amusing how everything was pretty much rock solid 60fps on all consoles until we hit the 3D era.

I mean there's good technical reasons for that, but still. Two steps forward, one step back.
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AppleQueso wrote:It is kinda amusing how everything was pretty much rock solid 60fps on all consoles until we hit the 3D era.

I mean there's good technical reasons for that, but still. Two steps forward, one step back.


Dont forget that the PS4 and Xbox One still have games that wont be in 1080p or rock solid 60fps, in this era, i think it should be a standard.
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