blame dsheinemnoiseredux wrote:no no -- no offense taken. I just kind of wish this thread would die already though.ejamer wrote:My post is more a reaction to the Racketboy community outright dismissing (what I feel is) an excellent resource for trading new and retro games based on (what I think is) a severe and misinformed overreaction.noiseredux wrote:
Did you read the stuff where I said I stopped caring about this a long time ago?
The post wasn't meant to be directed at you, except for the parts where I said you are a good guy.
I still use Goozex
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AppleQueso
Re: I'm done with Goozex
Re: I'm done with Goozex
Well since this thread is still alive: Noise, did you ever send Goozex a picture of Goo)(ZEX written on your ass? 
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Re: I still use Goozex
Alrighty, I'm not pulling for the whole Goozex is horrible/great arguement, but I just took a look at their site, and must say it confused the hell out of me. Anyone care to answer a few questions/give a run down?
Whats the point of the site? Just a large classifieds ad page for trading games to fellow members right? If thats the case, whats the purpose of points? Lastly. can ou just buy games there for hard cash (no points or what have you)?
Whats the point of the site? Just a large classifieds ad page for trading games to fellow members right? If thats the case, whats the purpose of points? Lastly. can ou just buy games there for hard cash (no points or what have you)?
If you aren't having a good time, why are you playing?
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AppleQueso
Re: I still use Goozex
Imagine if B/S/T here only had trades, no selling/buying. Goozex is basically a middleman for trading.avrame wrote:Alrighty, I'm not pulling for the whole Goozex is horrible/great arguement, but I just took a look at their site, and must say it confused the hell out of me. Anyone care to answer a few questions/give a run down?
Whats the point of the site? Just a large classifieds ad page for trading games to fellow members right? If thats the case, whats the purpose of points? Lastly. can ou just buy games there for hard cash (no points or what have you)?
Re: I still use Goozex
Hey, Noise, you know you just put a lot of new life into this thread by changing the title, right?
Systems: TI-99/4a, Commodore Vic-20, Atari 2600, NES, SMS, GB, Neo Geo MVS (Big Red 4-slot), Genesis, SNES, 3DO, PS1, N64, DC, PS2, GBA, GCN, NDSi, Wii
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mjmjr25
Re: I still use Goozex
If you don't care about game condition or completeness, goozex can be a nice resource...I guess. But if you think you are trading w/serious collectors, you (for the most part) are mistaken, people turn to goozex to dump their stuff that is overvalued or in bad condition. It took me 2 experiences, both disappointing, to never use the site again, buyer/trader/seller be advised. On the other hand if you have a disc scratched to hell or a game w/stickers, marker, and other forms of goo, go get top dollar and dump it off on some unsuspecting trader. 
I'll stick to a forum where there is communication, photos and accountability to your fellow trader.
I'll stick to a forum where there is communication, photos and accountability to your fellow trader.Re: I still use Goozex
My views on Goozex are that it's not good for collectors, or for people who want the latest games, or for people who want to receive games quickly.
It can be an excellent choice for people who are very patient, who want to get games cheaply, and who don't mind used goods as long as they are complete and fully playable.
TLDR of How Goozex Works
The system relies on two basic concepts: "first-come first-served" queues for both request and offers, and virtual currency.
Using queues means that you never look for matches directly, or have to bargain with other people. You just list games that you want to own or get rid of, and Goozex will automatically match you with the next person in the queue for that game. It's very fair, but can be a slow process when many people are in line before you - this is the biggest downside for new users, because it can take weeks or months to start receiving games while you move up the queues.
The virtual currency means that you never need to find one-to-one trades, and there is no negotiation between users. I can basically "sell" my games to any user on Goozex, who will then pay me in Goozex points. New or high demand games usually cost around 1000 points while older games can be as low as 100. Later, I can spend those Goozex points to receive (one or more) other games from any other user. You can also buy points directly from Goozex... but the $5 per 100 points exchange rate makes sending out games a much better way to earn points since you can probably find a 1000 point game with demand to trade for $30 or less if you look around.
So Goozex basically acts as a game trading middle-man, making it so that you never have to bargain directly with other users. They also track game prices and demand, using those numbers to adjust the point values for trading different games on their site, and offer some protection from scamming (although it's not a perfect system).
The downside is that their service isn't free. There is overhead when you mail out your games (although you would have to pay postage for any non-local trade anyway) and it also costs one trade token for each game that you receive. Trade tokens must be purchased through Goozex at an initial cost of $2 each, although once you have a high-enough level of feedback that drops to $1. You can also earn tokens for free just by joining in weekly online gaming sessions with the community or by entering contests in the forums.
Quality of games has to be playable condition and fit into one of the following categories (which buyers specify when looking for trades): full package, including all accessories and extras; disc and manual, meaning the original case doesn't need to be included; or disc only, which usually doesn't require any extras (although in some cases accessories are still required if the gameplay needs them and they were included in the original package - this is the one area you need to be really careful and either check the FAQ or use the forums for confirmation before listing your game).
Obviously "playable condition" can sometimes mean you get games that have scratches or cosmetic issues, but of the 70 games I've received so far there are none that I consider to be in bad shape. There are also some that have arrived still in shrink - a nice unexpected bonus from a used goods trading site.
Why I Care
Why do I care what people think about Goozex? I have no investment in or relation to the site other than the fact that having more people involved means I have more opportunities to send and receive games. That's why I don't like seeing people jump to negative conclusions about the quality of the site, and why I take the time to try and explain how it works.
Without Goozex, I would've been able to enjoy a much smaller number of games. Retro games in particular can be great finds on Goozex, since they often trade for very low point values (the catch being that they don't actually move very often).
It can be an excellent choice for people who are very patient, who want to get games cheaply, and who don't mind used goods as long as they are complete and fully playable.
TLDR of How Goozex Works
The system relies on two basic concepts: "first-come first-served" queues for both request and offers, and virtual currency.
Using queues means that you never look for matches directly, or have to bargain with other people. You just list games that you want to own or get rid of, and Goozex will automatically match you with the next person in the queue for that game. It's very fair, but can be a slow process when many people are in line before you - this is the biggest downside for new users, because it can take weeks or months to start receiving games while you move up the queues.
The virtual currency means that you never need to find one-to-one trades, and there is no negotiation between users. I can basically "sell" my games to any user on Goozex, who will then pay me in Goozex points. New or high demand games usually cost around 1000 points while older games can be as low as 100. Later, I can spend those Goozex points to receive (one or more) other games from any other user. You can also buy points directly from Goozex... but the $5 per 100 points exchange rate makes sending out games a much better way to earn points since you can probably find a 1000 point game with demand to trade for $30 or less if you look around.
So Goozex basically acts as a game trading middle-man, making it so that you never have to bargain directly with other users. They also track game prices and demand, using those numbers to adjust the point values for trading different games on their site, and offer some protection from scamming (although it's not a perfect system).
The downside is that their service isn't free. There is overhead when you mail out your games (although you would have to pay postage for any non-local trade anyway) and it also costs one trade token for each game that you receive. Trade tokens must be purchased through Goozex at an initial cost of $2 each, although once you have a high-enough level of feedback that drops to $1. You can also earn tokens for free just by joining in weekly online gaming sessions with the community or by entering contests in the forums.
Quality of games has to be playable condition and fit into one of the following categories (which buyers specify when looking for trades): full package, including all accessories and extras; disc and manual, meaning the original case doesn't need to be included; or disc only, which usually doesn't require any extras (although in some cases accessories are still required if the gameplay needs them and they were included in the original package - this is the one area you need to be really careful and either check the FAQ or use the forums for confirmation before listing your game).
Obviously "playable condition" can sometimes mean you get games that have scratches or cosmetic issues, but of the 70 games I've received so far there are none that I consider to be in bad shape. There are also some that have arrived still in shrink - a nice unexpected bonus from a used goods trading site.
Why I Care
Why do I care what people think about Goozex? I have no investment in or relation to the site other than the fact that having more people involved means I have more opportunities to send and receive games. That's why I don't like seeing people jump to negative conclusions about the quality of the site, and why I take the time to try and explain how it works.
Without Goozex, I would've been able to enjoy a much smaller number of games. Retro games in particular can be great finds on Goozex, since they often trade for very low point values (the catch being that they don't actually move very often).