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YoshiEgg25 wrote:

Octopod wrote:And some animals do rape. Ducks for one.

Did you guys seriously miss this for two pages? No one questioned this at all?

Or is this supposedly common knowledge and ducks just rape each other at the local K-Mart regularly?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallard#Reproduction

As I understand it they prefer Walmart.

You should check out how bed bugs do it. It's all rape. The male literally impales the female with his genitalia, and leaves his boys inside the body cavity.

Then, of course, there's this.

Lol. Why did you not believe me and then not even look for yourself before trying to call me out

YoshiEgg25 wrote:Did you guys seriously miss this for two pages? No one questioned this at all?

I watched a lot of nature programs growing up. I was aware of this sort of thing. IIRC in some animal troupes a male trying to oust an alpha male will also have it's way with it's harem as well.

Hatta wrote:Then, of course, there's this.

Hatta wrote:You should check out how bed bugs do it. It's all rape. The male literally impales the female with his genitalia, and leaves his boys inside the body cavity.

LITERALLY. The penis is essentially a knife and he spears the female through the abdomen and injects his semen into the female, which, due to fact that all the fluids are mixed together in bed bugs anyway, eventually makes its way to the egg where it fertilizes.

MrPopo wrote:

Hatta wrote:You should check out how bed bugs do it. It's all rape. The male literally impales the female with his genitalia, and leaves his boys inside the body cavity.

LITERALLY. The penis is essentially a knife and he spears the female through the abdomen and injects his semen into the female, which, due to fact that all the fluids are mixed together in bed bugs anyway, eventually makes its way to the egg where it fertilizes.

Wait, isn't this how it's supposed to be done? This may explain why I can never get a girl to sleep with me twice.

MrPopo wrote:LITERALLY. The penis is essentially a knife and he spears the female through the abdomen and injects his semen into the female, which, due to fact that all the fluids are mixed together in bed bugs anyway, eventually makes its way to the egg where it fertilizes.

I have always imagined that male Chinese Dragons have penises that are are actually smaller, autonomous dragon heads themselves.

jp1 wrote:For the non-believers, what do you think causes us to have a conscience? I mean if you don't believe in some kind of afterlife then why not go full primal ape shit and live however you want? Rape, murder, pillage, whatever. Besides the laws that have been put in place by fellow man and those consequences of course.

It's just part of us. We don't need to be able to explain it, because we can feel it in the choices we make every day.

jp1 wrote:And since many (maybe even a majority) of the laws and values of modern society mirror the values built from Christianity how do you feel about them?

These values weren't built from christianity. Christianity was built on values we already had. It's kind of like someone making a clone of super mario bros, and then someone trying to say it's actually a clone of Great Giana Sisters.

jp1 wrote:You believe that love is only a chemical reaction? So, do you believe you can have a meaningful loving relationship with someone? What is the point then?

Your suggesting that just because we don't understand the reasoning behind our actions, that we should no longer engage in them.

The fact is, you act morally and without understand the reasoning every day. The bible itself suggests that people commit plenty of unspeakable things. Yet when was the last time you stoned a homosexual, killed a nonbeliever, or sold a family member into sexual slavery? These things are all in the bible, yet you don't follow them. Something in you tells you which things to follow and which not to follow. Your making the same choice as us. Except when we act in a way that goes along with Jesus' teachings, we don't automatically assume we're acting that way because of Jesus or God.

jp1 wrote:A better phrasing of the question at hand to avoid confusion. If you don't believe in god, what do you believe in? As an atheist do you believe there is any purpose in life?

Again, you assume we have to understand why we do what we do, or that we have to have a purpose that we understand in order to be moral or live life without confusion.

Do you think that chimpanzees understand their purpose in life? Or any other animal on earth? They all go about their routines, living, breeding, and dying. But I seriously doubt any one of them pondered about existance. Our interest in this comes from our more advanced intelligence, and ability to ask why. Apparently we began asking "why" before we had the resources to properly answer the question, and that's where religion came from (just assuming). Now we have scientists working to understand the human brain, why we evolved the way we did, and why we have the 'morals' that we do. I have no doubt they'll answer most these questions eventually.

I'll add one more thing. Say we can't answer any of these questions you're asking. Say we don't know why we do what we do (we don't) and that we don't know if we have a purpose or not (we don't know). What should we do? What would you do?

Hatta wrote:Then, of course, there's this.

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