Luke wrote:Cronozilla wrote:
The Matrix is a deeply philosophical movie...
Sorry, but no it isn't. It reaches to be philosophical and fails miserably. Put down the bong, pick up a book. FERRIS BUELLER'S DAY OFF is infinitely more philosophical.
Implying that I'm an idiot who gets high all the time isn't going to change my mind on this. (And is an incredibly offensive thing to say to me, specifically)
The philosophical ideas presented in the movie have nothing to do with the plot itself or the dialog. I'm not saying the idea that "there is no spoon" is particularly compelling. I'm saying that there is something under the surface of that movie ... that has nothing to do with that movie ... that is significantly more interesting than the superficial nature of whats directly presented in The Matrix. And I know it's there because they use direct reference to Simulacra and Simulation multiple times.
When I learned about this and read that paper, my opinion of the movie actually increased just because they were aware of this, let alone inserting the ideas into the context of the movie. Obviously they didn't really keep it up or anything since it's entirely missing from the sequels.
I'm not saying the movie is multiple layers deep, it isn't. But it's at least two. And it isn't me, personally, over analyzing it, it's something that's actually there.
