So what have you guys been watching lately?

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Oh man, Agents of SHIELD has kicked things into high gear. And Bill Paxton guests in next week's episode!
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I am really liking Almost Human. The show seems to be scratching an itch I've had for awhile. Even though the episode order has been all mangled up for some reason, the flow is still good. I just wish they'd decide the episode order BEFORE showing a preview.

Shield is ... doing stuff ... finally.
Slapping in the Deathlok stuff was kinda dumb.
I just wish the show would move faster. I know the show runners are saying "oh just be patient, this isn't a movie, we're building it over a season". But it's just moving too slow. The nice thing about those Marvel flicks is they're self contained and they move quickly. I would rather have a quick moving and dense show, where a lot more ground was covered in similar fashion allowing for more plot threads to be explored (It sounds like they want to have the same amount of plot threads as one movie for every season, that sounds boring). Having character arcs stretch out is fine, but having an uninteresting invisible bad guy whom you have no reason to really care about and isn't even the threat on a weekly basis is just really boring.

The most recent episode was interesting, but I realized I just don't care about these people, they still seem like puppets without much substance.
People getting shot whom you don't really care about ... and know aren't going to die because they set up several episodes talking about how unique and special they are ... or because no one of any significance has really died on the show ... all people thought dead, we get a ":O they're alive" reveal in the next scene or next episode. It's just not suspenseful and comes across as kind of lazy.

It just becomes slightly less interesting when they slap on known Marvel names (Deathlok) and expect people to be psyched about it.
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Cronozilla wrote:It's just not suspenseful and comes across as kind of lazy.


Standard Whedon fare, then?
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Whedon isn't the show runner.
It's not near the caliber of even something like Dollhouse, which was pretty weak.

To me, it feels like they're failing to capture why people like the Marvel flicks in the first place. I feel like this show could have existed without Marvel at all and still have the same audience watching it. Actually, if it wasn't part of Marvel it might seem more interesting. At least then it'd appear creative.

As it stands it's a show that feels like Marvel is spliced in. You get name drops here and there, but ultimately it's something that feels very superficial.

I wanted to like Shield so much, but with what they're giving me, I just don't care. Especially when something significantly more interesting, like Almost Human, is also on and they hit a lot of the same threads, Almost Human does them better.
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I'm very curious to see when they give more details on what's beyond "The Wall" in Almost Human. I'm hoping it isn't just something like massive slums or a radioactive desert.
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MrPopo wrote:I'm very curious to see when they give more details on what's beyond "The Wall" in Almost Human. I'm hoping it isn't just something like massive slums or a radioactive desert.


Orr....maybe it is. And it'll turn into a Dredd TV series eventually. :lol:
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MrPopo wrote:I'm very curious to see when they give more details on what's beyond "The Wall" in Almost Human. I'm hoping it isn't just something like massive slums or a radioactive desert.


I agree, I hope it's something interesting. But really, as long as it's not slums or the apocalypse amazon, I'll probably be fine. If it's more like a Supermax or District B13 or something, that'd be pretty cool.

I guess it could always be the beginning of MegaCity 1.

My sneaking suspicion is that outside the wall is rampant tech. and terrorist organizations.
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BurningDoom wrote:
Sload Soap wrote:B'Lanna.


I had the hots for her back in the day. Forget about 7 of 9.

But yeah, that last episode was a bit of a disappointment. I actually wanted to see them make it home and interact with the rest of the Federation that had written them off as dead, for at least 1 episode.

My dad always had this cool idea that they'd show up just in the nick of time with some war-winning tactic or technology from the Delta Quandrant and be a key factor in the winning the Dominion War. I would have liked to see that, too.


That's not a bad idea, but I think Deep Space Nine was well over by that point and the Dominion War with it. They could have at least got a few minutes of celebration back on earth though as TSTR says.

The ending also leaves loads of weird plot holes: why do the Borg have a portal to earth they never use? If they had time to scan Voyager as the Queen says, surely they now have a defense for a technology that hasn't even been invented? And most obviously, if Janeway comes from the future and fixes her past, she cannot then come from the future to fix her past and creates a paradox which usually means Geordie and Data have to fire a tachyon pulse into the rift.

And the only sexy human/klingon is Worf's missus, K'Ehleyr.
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Sload Soap wrote:
BurningDoom wrote:
Sload Soap wrote:B'Lanna.


I had the hots for her back in the day. Forget about 7 of 9.

But yeah, that last episode was a bit of a disappointment. I actually wanted to see them make it home and interact with the rest of the Federation that had written them off as dead, for at least 1 episode.

My dad always had this cool idea that they'd show up just in the nick of time with some war-winning tactic or technology from the Delta Quandrant and be a key factor in the winning the Dominion War. I would have liked to see that, too.


That's not a bad idea, but I think Deep Space Nine was well over by that point and the Dominion War with it. They could have at least got a few minutes of celebration back on earth though as TSTR says.

The ending also leaves loads of weird plot holes: why do the Borg have a portal to earth they never use? If they had time to scan Voyager as the Queen says, surely they now have a defense for a technology that hasn't even been invented? And most obviously, if Janeway comes from the future and fixes her past, she cannot then come from the future to fix her past and creates a paradox which usually means Geordie and Data have to fire a tachyon pulse into the rift.

And the only sexy human/klingon is Worf's missus, K'Ehleyr.


The only one I can touch on is the Future Janeway still existing. The moment she changed time she created a parallel reality where Voyager made it back, while the future she came from still remained. Lots of sci-fi uses this theory.
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Cronozilla wrote:I am really liking Almost Human. The show seems to be scratching an itch I've had for awhile. Even though the episode order has been all mangled up for some reason, the flow is still good. I just wish they'd decide the episode order BEFORE showing a preview.

Shield is ... doing stuff ... finally.
Slapping in the Deathlok stuff was kinda dumb.
I just wish the show would move faster. I know the show runners are saying "oh just be patient, this isn't a movie, we're building it over a season". But it's just moving too slow. The nice thing about those Marvel flicks is they're self contained and they move quickly. I would rather have a quick moving and dense show, where a lot more ground was covered in similar fashion allowing for more plot threads to be explored (It sounds like they want to have the same amount of plot threads as one movie for every season, that sounds boring). Having character arcs stretch out is fine, but having an uninteresting invisible bad guy whom you have no reason to really care about and isn't even the threat on a weekly basis is just really boring.

The most recent episode was interesting, but I realized I just don't care about these people, they still seem like puppets without much substance.
People getting shot whom you don't really care about ... and know aren't going to die because they set up several episodes talking about how unique and special they are ... or because no one of any significance has really died on the show ... all people thought dead, we get a ":O they're alive" reveal in the next scene or next episode. It's just not suspenseful and comes across as kind of lazy.

It just becomes slightly less interesting when they slap on known Marvel names (Deathlok) and expect people to be psyched about it.


I'm loving both Almost Human and SHIELD. After Walking Dead (restarts this Sunday!), they're my favorite new shows on T.V.

Almost Human is great because of the cast, and production values. Dorian and Kennex really have this great chemistry together that shines through and make for some pretty funny scenes. And the production values are just fan-freaking-tastic! It looks like a movie. And it gives me my action fix. This isn't Robocop violence, or anything, but it's still plenty and balances out the story well. I'm also pretty curious about what's on the other side of the wall, too.

That last episode SHIELD was excellent! The way it was told through multiple character's views was really cool and really felt like a comic story, I freaking loved it. And it had a ton of action. The Deathlok stuff, I thought, was really cool, too. Yeah, I'd like to see more of a cyborg like in the comic, but this being a T.V. show and all, I can forgive that since it has a T.V. show budget. Can't wait to see the inevitable struggle he has of man vs. machine in his head. At some point he has to break through and become the hero he is in the comics.
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