Brony discussion split

[jp1]

See, this is why while I may not always agree with you Dave, I cant help but respect you. The further effort of searching out answers for yourself rather than demand them from someone else. To be fair you are always quite willing to explain yourself as well...so in that regard your expectation of the same is grounded in a mutual respect.



Ack, for the record, none of my posts have been directed towards you. Other than the one where I suggest that perhaps the answer doesn't exist, but that was a zero snark reply.

[samsonlonghair]

My goodness, I've never seen so much apologizing, sensitivity, and egg-shell-walking. Can we please turn off the political correctness for a day? Let's just assume for one day that none of our fellow racketeers are bigoted against autistic folks, transgender folks, or otherwise unpopular folks. If we feel offended, can we just let it roll off our backs like water for one day?
/rant

irixith,
Thanks for taking the time to binge watch MLP:FIS and writing that up for us. I didn't have the gumption to watch more than one episode. Now I can see how character interactions could endear an audience to continue watching. This makes me think of sitcoms where the characters never really change, but the audience has fun watching these different personality types interact.

Ack,
I'm still interested in that color-coded badge system. I could speculate based upon my own experiences with the spectrum, but I don't have any kind of concrete answer.

[Luke]

My goodness, I've never seen so much apologizing, sensitivity, and egg-shell-walking. Can we please turn off the political correctness for a day? Let's just assume for one day that none of our fellow racketeers are bigoted against autistic folks, transgender folks, or otherwise unpopular folks. If we feel offended, can we just let it roll off our backs like water for one day?
/rant

See samson, this is why I might not always agree with you but we continue to share a mutual respect for each other.

In all honesty,. I couldn't agree with you more. I think grown men and women liking MiP is very odd. So what? I watch Full House a lot and people think that's very odd. So what?

[dsheinem]

See, this is why while I may not always agree with you Dave, I cant help but respect you. The further effort of searching out answers for yourself rather than demand them from someone else. To be fair you are always quite willing to explain yourself as well...so in that regard your expectation of the same is grounded in a mutual respect.

Thanks, I figured you weren't really mad bro.

That interview in the links I posted is really very good at satisfying my need to hear a more intellectual explanation for Brony interest in the show and the community (and the link between them).

I think it would very much beHOOVE bronys (and adult fans of the show in general) to figure out some STOCK answers for explaining the ideas presented in that interview to John Q. Public so as to help create more understanding around a fandom that gets more than its share of abuse.

[samsonlonghair]

My goodness, I've never seen so much apologizing, sensitivity, and egg-shell-walking. Can we please turn off the political correctness for a day? Let's just assume for one day that none of our fellow racketeers are bigoted against autistic folks, transgender folks, or otherwise unpopular folks. If we feel offended, can we just let it roll off our backs like water for one day?
/rant

See samson, this is why I might not always agree with you but we continue to share a mutual respect for each other.

In all honesty,. I couldn't agree with you more. I think grown men and women liking MiP is very odd. So what? I watch Full House a lot and people think that's very odd. So what?

Right back at you, brother.

[jp1]

My goodness, I've never seen so much apologizing, sensitivity, and egg-shell-walking. Can we please turn off the political correctness for a day? Let's just assume for one day that none of our fellow racketeers are bigoted against autistic folks, transgender folks, or otherwise unpopular folks. If we feel offended, can we just let it roll off our backs like water for one day?
/rant

Honestly, I'm tired of it too Samson, but someone has to be on the other end of the debate or we just wind up with a thread full of bashing people we don't understand. In my opinion that is unacceptable. I apologize when I feel I have treated someone unfairly, I was raised to do it, I believe in it, and I don't use the anonymity of the internet as a way to avoid it. I hate if that offends you, but I won't compromise my morals because they are annoying. What offends me is people who would never walk around in every day life and spout off with the bs they run across the forum with (Not you), in fact it downright pisses me off. I am the type of guy that will say anything I say here face to face with that same person, and stand behind it. I'm afraid some people use the forum as an outlet to imagine this character they would love to be, spitting direct insults and such as if they are a character from a graphic novel.

So, PC aside if that's how you want it, I'm the kind of Danny Tanner that would knock someone's teeth out for acting like a douche in my company. As a result, few people ever do, or perhaps that has more to do with the fact that I try and surround myself with people who have respect, compassion, and acceptance. Don't get me wrong, that isn't some veiled threat and I don't think I am a bad ass (or that it is cool to resort to violence)...I only mean to say that all of these things people find so offensive like accepting responsibility for my own actions and trying to rectify things aren't a result of some needy compulsion. I choose to respect people and their beliefs because it is the right thing to do.

Lastly, I would love to assume that of all of our fellow racketeers, however it is clearly not true. I should have known better when it comes to Dave, that's on me. Other's have clearly shown judgement and prejudice. How I would love to turn my back on that and be like "nah, it's cool...I'm sort of a dick anyway" but that isn't the kind of world I want for my children or the kind of example I'd like to set. Eggshells and all, I take acceptance over bigotry. And being kind to people who have done nothing to deserve otherwise is a courtesy we should all embrace.

[Jmustang1968]

Yeah, tinking bronies are weird and trying to get them to stop what they are doing or attacking them, are totally different things. There is also a big difference between saying the show is enjoyable and being obsessed to the point of attending cons and some of the other rabid fanboy displays online. And then, once there, not wanting to talk to anyone else.
Isn't the entire point of a convention like that to meet and hanf out with others who share your passion?

I would guess the bronies who act the way they do about i online revel in the attention and the fact they are considered weird by others.

And JP1, I made the Danny Tanner comment not just from this one but from many of the racket discussions where some argument occurs. I am like cue the Tanner time!

[samsonlonghair]

I hate if that offends you

I see what you did there. I guess you got me. It's silly for me to get offended over the fact that others are so easily offended. Touché!

[lisalover1]

Irixith already alluded to it in her post, but here is why I believe that FiM is a great show that everyone should at least try.

It is cute and sweet without being saccharine or stupid. It has a team of very clever writers that doesn't talk down to its audience, while still being able to keep a balance of levity/gravity. The songs are memorable and pleasant (It is impossible not to get "Winter Wrap-Up" stuck in your head). The characters are actually fleshed out and developed, and actually change over the seasons. Also, the visual aesthetic is downright adorable, and has a clean, simple style.

It just tries to deliver that holy grail of a show that really CAN be enjoyed by all ages, and actually succeeds. If you're still not sure, then just give an episode a watch on Netflix. If you don't want to start from the beginning, and want some specific recommendations, I would try starting out with S1E16 (Sonic Rainboom), S2E2 (Lesson Zero), or the S2 premiere two-parter.

[dsheinem]

It is cute and sweet without being saccharine

Funny, I think AQ or someone said the show was saccharine.

Is there much "dissent" amongst Bronys? I guess one of the things that makes me like a sub-culture community more or less is the degree of reflectiveness and, specifically, the willingness to criticize creative decisions made by the people who produce the media in question. Are there MLP fans who dislike the art style? Who find the show to be uneven? Or is it, due to "positive vibes," just seen as "ALL AWESOME ALL THE TIME!"?