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Inazuma wrote:Taking on a huge risk without any benefit is fucking stupid. What more can I say? You have the freedom to play Russian Roulette (or in this case a modified version where there are 3 bullets in the revolver) but doing so would be foolish.
While divorce rate is 50%, that doesn't mean it is a 50% chance for every person. There are a number of factors that predict the success of a marriage. With enough protective factors and the absence of risk factors your chance of divorce significantly drops. To learn more about the research on this, you should look into the research of John Gottman. He can predict divorce with 90% accuracy.

The key four things that predict divorce (or commited relationship failure) can usually be seen in how they argue. If in an argument they are overly critical of your partner, to show contempt either verbally or nonverbally, to be overly defensive, and/or to stonewall. It's also important that they don't use insults that attribute mistakes or differences to character flaws-- it's like the difference between saying you did a stupid thing and you are stupid.

John Gottman was research faculty where I am at for graduate school, so I'm well acquainted with his research. I knew while getting married that the odds were in my favor. It wasn't 50/50. I also wouldn't equate divorce with a bullet to the brain.

I think you also fail to hear me when I explain that marriage has benefits. I feel a deeper sort of commitment to my partner having gone through a public display of our commitment before our friends and family. Could we have made up our own sort of ceremony that was not marriage? Yes, but it wouldn't have the same cultural weight. There are also somewhere in the range of 1400 legal rights that are bestowed upon for being married.

A quick google search provides some of them:
• joint parenting;
• joint adoption;
• joint foster care, custody, and visitation (including non-biological parents);
• status as next-of-kin for hospital visits and medical decisions where one partner is too ill to be competent;
• joint insurance policies for home, auto and health;
• dissolution and divorce protections such as community property and child support;
• immigration and residency for partners from other countries;
• inheritance automatically in the absence of a will;
• joint leases with automatic renewal rights in the event one partner dies or leaves the house or apartment;
• inheritance of jointly-owned real and personal property through the right of survivorship (which avoids the time and expense and taxes in probate);
• benefits such as annuities, pension plans, Social Security, and Medicare;
• spousal exemptions to property tax increases upon the death of one partner who is a co-owner of the home;
• veterans' discounts on medical care, education, and home loans; joint filing of tax returns;
• joint filing of customs claims when traveling;
• wrongful death benefits for a surviving partner and children;
• bereavement or sick leave to care for a partner or child;
• decision-making power with respect to whether a deceased partner will be cremated or not and where to bury him or her;
• crime victims' recovery benefits;
• loss of consortium tort benefits;
• domestic violence protection orders;
• judicial protections and evidentiary immunity;
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Flake wrote:I bet your parents prayed for one every day until you moved out of their house. Assuming you ever did, of course.
Yeah right. You know he's sitting in their basement looking like this:

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brunoafh wrote:
Flake wrote:I bet your parents prayed for one every day until you moved out of their house. Assuming you ever did, of course.
Yeah right. You know he's sitting in their basement looking like this:

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Nah, that can't be him. That guy has a wireless emitter. I cannot conceive of Inazuma as the kind of guy who would debase himself to PAY for internet when he could just steal it. That picture is of a man far more generous than Inazuma.
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Czernobog wrote:Image
Quit hogging all the popcorn dude :wink:
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Seriously. Screw you Shao Kahn I'm gonna play Animal Crossing.
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Gamerforlife wrote:
Czernobog wrote:Image
Quit hogging all the popcorn dude :wink:
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Flake wrote:
Inazuma wrote: As for how to tell what side your marriage is on, just use your time machine and check before you get married. How silly of me. I totally forgot that time machines existed.
I bet your parents prayed for one every day until you moved out of their house. Assuming you ever did, of course.
You are brilliant. Instead of explaining why men should get married, you insult me personally and act like that somehow makes marriage OK.

Let's use this. Here is what we are gonna do. I will say that cancer is bad because it kills good people and then you will call me childish names. By doing so, we would have altered reality and cancer will suddenly become a good thing or maybe disappear completely! You with me on this?

I am glad you are so intelligent and powerful. I would love to solve the world's problems by calling people poopy heads too, but I'm just not at your level.
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Your arguments are usually stated logically. That just didn't make sense.
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Inazuma wrote: You are brilliant. Instead of explaining why men should get married, you insult me personally and act like that somehow makes marriage OK.
Stop acting like a victim. You either deliberately piss people off because that is the most exciting thing you have to do with your time. Or you really are so socially inept that you can't figure out why no one likes you. In that case, you should go outside and learn how to socialize.

And dude? Call you a 'poopie head'? Do you not take notice of the sheer amount of Citizen Kane's and MJ Popcorns I get when I call you out for your poor behavior? I put a LOT more effort into it than 'poopie head'.
Maybe now Nintendo will acknowledge Metroid has a fanbase?
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J T wrote:
Inazuma wrote:Taking on a huge risk without any benefit is fucking stupid. What more can I say? You have the freedom to play Russian Roulette (or in this case a modified version where there are 3 bullets in the revolver) but doing so would be foolish.
While divorce rate is 50%, that doesn't mean it is a 50% chance for every person. There are a number of factors that predict the success of a marriage. With enough protective factors and the absence of risk factors your chance of divorce significantly drops. To learn more about the research on this, you should look into the research of John Gottman. He can predict divorce with 90% accuracy.

The key four things that predict divorce (or commited relationship failure) can usually be seen in how they argue. If in an argument they are overly critical of your partner, to show contempt either verbally or nonverbally, to be overly defensive, and/or to stonewall. It's also important that they don't use insults that attribute mistakes or differences to character flaws-- it's like the difference between saying you did a stupid thing and you are stupid.

John Gottman was research faculty where I am at for graduate school, so I'm well acquainted with his research. I knew while getting married that the odds were in my favor. It wasn't 50/50. I also wouldn't equate divorce with a bullet to the brain.
So if people know ahead of time that they are going to get divorced, wouldn't you agree that it would be foolish to get married? If what you said was actually true, the divorce rate wouldn't be anywhere near 50%.

The list of benefits is mostly about money, so those don't matter much if you take into consideration all of the costs you will incur with marriage and divorce. The benefits that have nothing to do with money can be nice but it is nowhere near worth the costs and risks to obtain them.
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Inazuma wrote:
Flake wrote:
Inazuma wrote: As for how to tell what side your marriage is on, just use your time machine and check before you get married. How silly of me. I totally forgot that time machines existed.
I bet your parents prayed for one every day until you moved out of their house. Assuming you ever did, of course.
You are brilliant. Instead of explaining why men should get married, you insult me personally and act like that somehow makes marriage OK.

Let's use this. Here is what we are gonna do. I will say that cancer is bad because it kills good people and then you will call me childish names. By doing so, we would have altered reality and cancer will suddenly become a good thing or maybe disappear completely! You with me on this?

I am glad you are so intelligent and powerful. I would love to solve the world's problems by calling people poopy heads too, but I'm just not at your level.
He wasn't arguing with you about your thoughts on marriage. He was just insulting you. It was a seperate point which had nothing to do with the topic at hand, but which nevertheless he felt needed said. I heartily approve.

I have no problem with your opinions on marriage, even if I disagree. You evidently to have problems with people with other opinions than you though, as you spend your entire fucking time calling them idiots and assholes. That I have a problem with. Fuck you and your self important bullshit.
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