Xbox One

[BogusMeatFactory]

BogusMeatFactory

I think this generation consoles couldn't be any more the similar except for Wii U, just because it has the tablet controller. The N64/PSX were different, offering different experiences. The upcoming generation is too similar, they all have bluray , online, paid subscription, cd based, HDD, HD graphics, even the controllers are the same more or less. Only exclusive games will declare a winner.


As for Bayonetta, the sad truth is that even that this game is probably what the WiiU needs, this title I heard didn't sell well. Even if so, 1 title is not enough. WiiU will probably need 10 "Bayonettas" to attract attention.

I can argue with this until the cows come home, but it will do no good. Nothing you ever say makes sense. The upcoming generation is too similar...they all have online? HD graphics?! These things are expected now and will never be a defining feature for a generation of consoles. So every single system is similar to ever other system in existence. By your logic, the PSX and N64 should be exactly the same. You can play games, push buttons, save data, feel rumble, have analog sticks and have multi-player.

The Xbox One and PS4 controllers are not the same, no matter what you say.

[AppleQueso]

By your logic, the PSX and N64 should be exactly the same. You can play games, push buttons, save data, feel rumble, have analog sticks and have multi-player.

Both also have polygonal 3D.

[oxymoron]

I don't have high hopes for this console. That is all I will say.

Why? This and the PS4 are almost identical.

Wow, you could not be farther from the truth. On a technological mindset, you could be right. They are roughly equal in terms of horsepower and aside from the obvious points i.e. they have hard drives and play video games, the similarities stop.

The Xbox One is attempting to be an all-encompassing multimedia device. It is taking what the Xbox 360 started to do and bring it into full realization. It is trying to replace the cable box and provide unique interactive features that aren't possible in most cable/satellite providers. It is trying to push the technology of the Kinect into interactive TV with the Raving Rabbids TV show. There seems to be a much larger focus on providing physical interactivity with TV, as well as games.

Are they doing it right? Will it be successful? I don't know. We will have to see.

With the PS4, you are seeing a game console. Sony is pushing the mantra that this device is for games and nothing else. With the PS3, they really tried to push the blu-ray drive, much like they did the DVD drive on the PS2. Here, it is very different. They aren't pushing a new format or a new multimedia device.

The ability to link your PSP Vita with your PS4, the touch pad on the PS4 controller, all things that are meant to support a gaming experience.

These two companies are diverging in their ideologies and both systems are starting to stand out with distinctive differences, much like what Nintendo has been doing since the Wii.

This is why I don't necessarily want an Xbox One. It has features that I will never use. I don't enjoy the Kinect experience and am not a huge TV watcher, not having cable. This is also why I never got a 3DS. I can't see the 3D so why would I pay for features that I will never use (which is a driving factor as to why I might get a 2DS).

This is one of the first times that the big console competitors had distinctive visions and that divergence can only benefit the consumer.

I'm speaking from a 'hardcore" or gaming enthusiast's perspective. Most gamers will not being buying the XB1 or PS4 for the multimedia features. So if you minus the "DVR" and "motion gaming" aspect they are almost the same thing. And they aren't going going for two completely different ecosystems. PS4 is aiming for gaming enthusiasts while the XB is more focused towards the casual or mass gamer.

[BogusMeatFactory]

I'm speaking from a 'hardcore" or gaming enthusiast's perspective. Most gamers will not being buying the XB1 or PS4 for the multimedia features. So if you minus the "DVR" and "motion gaming" aspect they are almost the same thing. And they aren't going going for two completely different ecosystems. PS4 is aiming for gaming enthusiasts while the XB is more focused towards the casual or mass gamer.

You are absolutely right. If you take away all the things that make a system different from its competition you will have the same thing.

[oxymoron]

I'm speaking from a 'hardcore" or gaming enthusiast's perspective. Most gamers will not being buying the XB1 or PS4 for the multimedia features. So if you minus the "DVR" and "motion gaming" aspect they are almost the same thing. And they aren't going going for two completely different ecosystems. PS4 is aiming for gaming enthusiasts while the XB is more focused towards the casual or mass gamer.

You are absolutely right. If you take away all the things that make a system different from its competition you will have the same thing.

Ok. You tell me, when you go out to buy a next gen system will you be swayed by motion gaming and multimedia features? I'm going to go out on a limb and say no. Myself and most gaming enthusiasts could give a damn wither or not you can play fantasy football, record TV, and watch Netflix on a gaming console. When I go out to spend $500+ I look at who has the best games and boundary-pushing hardware not who offers Hulu plus. Like I said, I'm speaking from a 'hardcore" or gaming enthusiast's perspective.

[ZenErik]

I love being able to play MP4 on my PS3. Along with Amazon Instant Video, Crunchyroll, etc. That is what I use it for arguably more than 50% of the time. I spend more time gaming on my portables. And lately more time on PC playing Diablo 3. And I just started playing World of Warcraft for the first time since a friend wanted to get back into it. So far it's not bad but low level areas are a bit dead, unsurprisingly.

I'm sorry but is a 'hardcore' gamer's only interest in the world supposed to be games? I want to watch anime on my consoles and stream awesomely terribly awesomely terrible movies like Fast & Furious 6.

[BogusMeatFactory]

Ok. You tell me, when you go out to buy a next gen system will you be swayed by motion gaming and multimedia features? I'm going to go out on a limb and say no. Myself and most gaming enthusiasts could give a damn wither or not you can play fantasy football, record TV, and watch Netflix on a gaming console. When I go out to spend $500+ I look at who has the best games and boundary-pushing hardware not who offers Hulu plus. Like I said, I'm speaking from a 'hardcore" or gaming enthusiast's perspective.

To answer your question... yes. I am not going to pay $500 for a system that has a huge bulk of features that I will not use. Like said previously, I am not buying a 3DS because I can't see the 3d and some of the price of the system is directly because of that feature.

I can assure you that the XboxOne would be cheaper if it didn't include all of the interactive cable features and the kinect support, two big features that I have zero interest in using, hence I will not purchase it.

When I go out and spend $500 on something, I want to make sure that I will enjoy every aspect of it and not waste my money, because I live in the real world.

And please stop representing the gaming community at large, because you don't. You represent yourself and yourself alone and by making the claim to be representing the hardcore gamer's perspective, you are really lessening yourself. You are better than that.

[Retrogamer0001]

I'm speaking from a 'hardcore" or gaming enthusiast's perspective. Most gamers will not being buying the XB1 or PS4 for the multimedia features. So if you minus the "DVR" and "motion gaming" aspect they are almost the same thing. And they aren't going going for two completely different ecosystems. PS4 is aiming for gaming enthusiasts while the XB is more focused towards the casual or mass gamer.

You are absolutely right. If you take away all the things that make a system different from its competition you will have the same thing.

Ok. You tell me, when you go out to buy a next gen system will you be swayed by motion gaming and multimedia features? I'm going to go out on a limb and say no. Myself and most gaming enthusiasts could give a damn wither or not you can play fantasy football, record TV, and watch Netflix on a gaming console. When I go out to spend $500+ I look at who has the best games and boundary-pushing hardware not who offers Hulu plus. Like I said, I'm speaking from a 'hardcore" or gaming enthusiast's perspective.

Agree with you here - for me, it's about the games, and only the games. I have a laptop and desktop computer for everything else. I don't see the need, or point, in being able to check facebook, ebay, or youtube on my gaming device. In my opinion, these features are redundant, especially when almost everyone already has a computer. To me, these are not selling points - I'm much more interested in the exclusive games one system has over another.

[Xboxsegafan187]

@oxymoron Now I know you are a Fanboy with the nonsense and anecdotes you continually use to support your "opinionated" facts.

I'll simplify it for you oxymoron since your name suits your often time ironic posts. Let's start by using the definition of 2 important pieces of evidence (mind you non scientific) you continually use to support your unfounded claims.

"Anecdote" definition Noun-a short usually amusing account of an incident, esp a personal or biographical one.

"Anecdotal" definition Adjective-containing or consisting exclusively of anecdotes rather than connected discourse or research conducted under controlled conditions


I'm sorry bro but bogusmeatfactory got it right by stating

"And please stop representing the gaming community at large, because you don't. You represent yourself and yourself alone and by making the claim to be representing the hardcore gamer's perspective, you are really lessening yourself. You are better than that."

The world of gaming and doesn't revolve around your thinking oxymoron if it did then "everyone" not some but everyone would be gaming on a Playstation Gaming platform, unbeknownst to you "hardcore" gaming is definition that is us loosely around to represent a segments of gamers that like to play games passionately a lot regardless of the platform.

Whereas the opposite "Fanboy" is defined as-an obsessive male and or female fan, especially of something technological or from popular culture. Clearly after reading both definitions I can certainly say with 100% accuracy that you are not a hardcore gamer but a fanboy IMO.

Then let me ask you how about the people that game solely on the PC which BTW is Superior in every way to the PS4 and Xbox one in graphics are those that game on the PC not "hardcore" gamers because I can tell you what if you decide to spout your PS4 superiority nonsense to a PC only forum you will be met with heated debates.

What about those who game on the Wii-U, or only on retro consoles are they not hardcore gamers? The quick answer is everyone can be a hardcore gamer regardless of the platform that they want to game on.

Is the Xbox one really in your eyes only possessing motion controls and multimedia features? How wrong you are the Xbox one and the PS4 both have games and multimedia features that are desirable to certain people but not to all and it is this freedom of choice not your dystopian future of the Xbox one where it is condemned to failure just because it does not cater to "your" gaming needs that I prefer to choose on my own what I think fills my gaming need.

Bro grow up and ditch your fanboy attitude and have respect if you have any left and let be those who chose what to game on their own personal choice and not some PS4 fanboy spewing propaganda.

Last time I checked "you" and only you oxymoron have been posting your negative fanboy nonsense about the xbox one and that should show you clearly your lack of class and trolling behavior is indicative of a fanboy.

[oxymoron]

Please read my post once again. Did I once say that the PS4 was better? No. Did I once say that the XB1 was bad? No. All I said is if you look at the XB and PS from a gaming stand point they are pretty similar. That's all. You need to slow down, actually read the posts, and reply in a professional manner.

Your definition of a "fanboy" is really messed up. Plus your more of a fanboy than me. Last time I checked your name was Xboxsegafan187. If you want to have a debate then lets do that but please stop with the ranting.

I admit that my perspective of a "hardcore" gamer is very generalizing and sweeping over. I just want you to answer one thing. What's the first thing you look at when buying a new console, Games and hardware or multimedia?

We have strayed a little far from my original point which was that for the most part these console are pretty similar.