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Since it was brought up in another topic, one of my favorite boardgames of all time is Richard Borgs Memoir 44:
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It is a light wargame for 2 players (expandable in multiples of 2 typically) about WW2 ground combat. In videogame terms this is kinda like Call of Duty instead of ARMA. It is fast paced (you can easily get three games in in a night), realism is dropped in favor for faster gameplay, and you have toy soldiers instead of chits. There are no advance rules like engines blowing out of tanks, infantry fatigue, or supply lines. You just have card driven movement and dice result combat. The game is deep, just not complex, and there are more missions than you will ever play (something like 55 official missions).

The game is played on a simple board of 9x13 4inch hexes:
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Each hex can have a modifier hex put on top of it to change the battlefield. So the field quickly gains a forest, cities, hedge rows, or a river:
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So in ten minutes you can go from picking a mission to starting. Comparing that to something like Advance Squad Leader or Flames of War, which take about an hour each, and you could have played the game and be putting it back up before they even start.

If you have a keen eye you will see three red lines on the board, breaking it down to sections. These are the flanks you play the game in. Gameplay is done on a I Go You Go (IGYGO) basis. On your turn you play one of your five command cards. A command card tells you which sections and how many units you can move that turn:
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So if you play Probe left flank, you get to move two units on the left flank. They can leave the left flank, and shoot at units outside of that flank, but they must start there. Pretty easy right? Combat is done with special dice:
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Which are pretty self-explanatory – shooting at tanks, roll a tank or a grenade to blow them up. The flag is a force retreat. Every unit has different move and shoot ranges, incover and out, etc.

Without getting into too much about the rules, it plays very well. It is an excellent “arcadey” version of WW2. Best of all is that the game has been expanded a lot:
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So you are not stuck playing Western front, Americans/English vs Germany. Want to play Eastern front, great there is a Russian army with Commisar rules. How about Pacific? There is Japanese. Mediterranean theater, grab those Italians (who have missions against the Allies and the Axis). There is an airpack to add air power, and you can daisy chain multiple sets to make Omaha beach or just one gigantic battlefield. There are even third party maps pre printed with the terrain tiles so setup is even faster:
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Why do I enjoy it so much? To me Memoir 44 is like Avalon Hills Dune, it is a system polished so well that it is damn near perfection. The game “engine” for lack of a better word has been expanded on numerous times since. The original game, Battle Cry, is currently in print and is Memoir in the American Civil War (the current release has the updated Memoir rules). But there is a version for most eras of combat:
Command and Colors Ancients
Command and Colors Napoleonics
Samurai Battles – Feudal Japan
The Great War – WW1
Battlelore 1st&2nd editions (released by two different companies) – Fantasy

Having played all but The Great War, the one I always come back to is Memoir. It has the most support, official and fan, it plays very well, and my wife and I get four games in in a night easily (2 missions, one time each playing each side).

The version on steam is a pay per game system and so not worth it - despite me spending alot of money on it when it was on the DOW website.

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Memoir 44 is so awesome. I miss playing it and Shadowrun DMZ. Unfortunately I just don't have enough cool people around anymore to play board games with these days. I sold / gave away all my board games because of that. Except Dark Tower. Never giving up Dark Tower!
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Ugh. That looks so good. Fast - so you're saying it's called a 2p game, but you can easily do 2v2 or 3v3? How does it work? IGYGHGSH where I and He are a team and You and She are a team?
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Memoir '44 is a very fun game. Quick and accessible - but with more strategy than you might expect for a game where cards are required to move and dice used to attack.

One thing I really liked about Memoir '44 are the campaign books that create ongoing sessions where the results of one battle affect what happens next. The only downside is that you probably need at least one expansion to be able to play all of the scenarios inside.

The first campaign book is out of print and hard to find now unless you are willing to spend heavily, but can still be had in PDF format. The second campaign book is (I think) still in print though. Highly recommended for anyone interested in the game!
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For 2v2 or 3v3 you need multiple base sets. Typically a 2v2 game features two base sets setup in what they call Overlord. Each player mans one board. They can move units and fire over the edge into the next board, and they can trade cards with their teammates (atleast if playing with kids).

Here is a story of a group playing the 6v6 Omaha beach that I posted up in the writeup:
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/138229 ... oto-report
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I've pushed my love of Catacombs a few times on the board here. Hopefully it won't break the rules if I post a link to the ongoing KickStarter for the next game in that series?



This sequel is supposed to be quicker to play and with streamlined rules. There is also going to be a reprint of the original game at the same time, so if you want something slightly more complex that might be worth keeping your eye on it.

If you don't like dexterity games then this isn't for you, but otherwise it's pretty awesome.
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That looks excellent - thanks for posting it. I LOVE that it has both co-op and competitive options, and that it goes up to 6p. I'll take a closer look w/my family once i'm home this evening. Hopefully by the time Fast comes up to visit we'll be seasoned pros.
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ejamer give me the 411 on it. I love dex games, Caroms and Pitch Car are two of my favorite games of all time. I have always been interested in Catacombs, but never had a chance to play it, and it has always been out of my impulse buy range. But that kickstarter has it a $152+shipping for the bulk of the game, $250 for the whole kit and kaboodle, puts it in a better price bracket.

So how does your average game play?
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I would be delighted to tell more about one of my favorite games - but need to put kids in bed first. In the meantime, the Sit Down and Shut Up video linked below is a pretty reasonable showcase - and as a bonus they also briefly compare Catacombs to my second favorite dexterity game (Flick 'em Up) at the end of the video.

https://www.shutupandsitdown.com/videos ... catacombs/

I prefer Catacombs because it's more complex and, I think, more structured experience. It feels like a full game to me, where Flick 'em Up often ends up being a short(ish) free for all. But it really depends on what you are looking for.


Worth noting that the KickStarter linked earlier is a lighter version of the game described here - rules are simplified a little bit and playing time is shorter, instead of progressing through a series of rooms to a boss there is more of a single-room battle happening, and there will be different options for playing with teams instead of just 1-vs-many. They talk about co-op play, but I suspect that it will be team play as I don't know how you'd do co-op without having someone control the "bad guys".

Based on updates, I think they expect to have a full gameplay video up in the next day or so to describe changes.
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By the way - I have an unrelated question and know someone here can give me feedback.

I want a good 2-player map so I can try introducing Steam to my wife. Was thinking of print-and-play maps for one of: Scotland (adapted to Steam from the Age of Steam expansion), Sardinia, or Sicily & Malta.

You can find all of those maps described on www.boardgamegeek.com if you want more info.

Anyone tried one of those maps, or have other suggestions? I know the official expansions offer some 2-player maps also.
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