Redifer wrote:I'm hearing reports that even the clone hardware does this. It has been seen on the FC3 Plus, the RetroN3, the RetroDuo and the FC Twin, all of which share the same clone chipset. Strange.
Heard from where? Any links? Zing says:
Zing wrote:Strange. Every mention of vertical lines on the above systems were in regards to the NES output, not SNES. The only mention I found of the vertical line with the SNES was someone saying it wasn't there.
vlame wrote:it has to be cart specific then.
Well it still wouldn't explain why some get a very noticeable line while others have to play with settings on their TV just to make it barely noticeable. Unless we're going with the theory that some TVs can "hide" this line. I'm not a big fan of that though, as many of us have played our SNES on many different TVs. Anyways, I think Jam is gonna send me one of his offending SNES consoles. If I use his console on my TV and get the lines, then it has something to do with the console itself. If I do NOT get the lines, then either my TV is "hiding" it or my specific carts (if it's the cart's fault) is some how different in that it doesn't produce this line (at all or to a lesser extent). How's that for scientific method?
vlame wrote:my SFc can run off a Genesis model one power, isn't that the same as the snes? my 110v brick broke...
The NTSC-U (American) SNES uses a proprietary plug, so you can only use plugs made specifically for the NTSC-U SNES. That's why I was saying (if you read my original post that this quote was taken from) it would be hard to test out different power adapters on the NTSC-U SNES. Though one could mod the system to use a standard power adapter jack, if one was so inclined. But that's why I was suggesting that a SFC or PAL SNES user could test out different (quality) power adapters, because those systems use a standard jack.
My PAL SNES (Australian/New Zealand model) has the same requirements as a NES plug, but the plug sizes don't match up. It needs a bigger sized plug. So the Genesis plug doesn't fit either. Though I have an adapter cable that will allow me to use the NES and Genesis power adapters.
vlame wrote:Not really. Think about it. Every cartridge is adding hardware to the console. Some games are rushed or reprinted and such. Carts are already expensive to manufacture. Do you think they would really care if there was random banding that happens because of cheap components in carts is really a primary concern? Maybe they had bad solder points or unsheielded chips that create signals. I only have a small handful of snes games so I'm not that much of a help.
I completely disagree. For the most part, they don't use cheap components. The exception being the Majesco carts (and maybe other second run carts that are made or assembled in Mexico). Normal MIJ SNES carts are high quality. They don't use cheap parts, as far as I know. And I've never seen a bad solder joint on a SNES cart before (and I've seen a LOT at this point). And if interference is causing the vertical line problem, then EVERY game would show it, and not just a few making it more prominent than others and some not at all.
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