Mega Man X series post MMX3- Are they worth playing?

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I'm pretty sure Dr. Light in a gi and the MegaMan Haduken are totally, completely canon.


To the OP, I truly love the first MMX. I think 2-5 are pretty damn good and even 6 is solid. I'd agree with people who say stop playing after X6. It's like the Black album, just stop there and don't ever bother to fuck with the stuff that came after. Ever.
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With the kind of evidence Flake needs to believe something to be true, I'm glad he's not a detective, lawyer or private eye
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Gamerforlife wrote:With the kind of evidence Flake needs to believe something to be true, I'm glad he's not a detective, lawyer or private eye
What evidence do I need that is unreasonable?

There are 10 mainline Megaman games.

There are 8 mainline Megaman X games.

If there was ONE instance where the events of one game were so much as hinted at in another, I'd be right there with you. But that instance doesn't exist. Not only does it not exist but every single opportunity for that instance to present itself is completely avoided.

Dr. Cain mentions Dr. Light was famous...but not the Blue Robot that made him famous? Dr. Light mentions he has given Megaman X the ability to fight...but not that he did this because of prior experience? The events of the first Megaman X game mirror Megaman 1 so closely that it would have been crazy easy for someone, ANYONE to say 'holy shit, just like 100 years ago!'. And I'd believe the two series were directly related.

But none of that is there. I've explained, quite reasonably, why I have this stance. It's well thought out, no? Your turn.
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Flake wrote:
Gamerforlife wrote:With the kind of evidence Flake needs to believe something to be true, I'm glad he's not a detective, lawyer or private eye
What evidence do I need that is unreasonable?

There are 10 mainline Megaman games.

There are 8 mainline Megaman X games.

If there was ONE instance where the events of one game were so much as hinted at in another, I'd be right there with you. But that instance doesn't exist. Not only does it not exist but every single opportunity for that instance to present itself is completely avoided.

Dr. Cain mentions Dr. Light was famous...but not the Blue Robot that made him famous? Dr. Light mentions he has given Megaman X the ability to fight...but not that he did this because of prior experience? The events of the first Megaman X game mirror Megaman 1 so closely that it would have been crazy easy for someone, ANYONE to say 'holy shit, just like 100 years ago!'. And I'd believe the two series were directly related.

But none of that is there. I've explained, quite reasonably, why I have this stance. It's well thought out, no? Your turn.
The problem I have with your stance is it feels like you decided that Mega Man X is a retelling of Mega Man and then came up with reasons why this must be so.

Is the Mega Man X manual a good enough source for you? It makes a direct reference to the original Mega Buster, and mentions that the X Buster, unlike the original Mega Buster, can charge up boss weapons as well.

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Flake wrote:
Gamerforlife wrote:With the kind of evidence Flake needs to believe something to be true, I'm glad he's not a detective, lawyer or private eye
What evidence do I need that is unreasonable?

There are 10 mainline Megaman games.

There are 8 mainline Megaman X games.

If there was ONE instance where the events of one game were so much as hinted at in another, I'd be right there with you. But that instance doesn't exist. Not only does it not exist but every single opportunity for that instance to present itself is completely avoided.

Dr. Cain mentions Dr. Light was famous...but not the Blue Robot that made him famous? Dr. Light mentions he has given Megaman X the ability to fight...but not that he did this because of prior experience? The events of the first Megaman X game mirror Megaman 1 so closely that it would have been crazy easy for someone, ANYONE to say 'holy shit, just like 100 years ago!'. And I'd believe the two series were directly related.

But none of that is there. I've explained, quite reasonably, why I have this stance. It's well thought out, no? Your turn.
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@Mr popo :That bit in the manual is why I used to think the two of them were connected as well - but then it occurred to that if X WAS a darker what-if where Dr. Light and Wily took longer creating way more powerful robots then there would definitely be prototypes to the equipment the two of them eventually ended up with.

@ Gamerforlife - so what gives, bro? This seems to be pretty personal to you. To the point that you're getting kind of rude. I've explained my viewpoint, acknowledged that I am in the minority, conceded that I won't change any minds. Yet you still jump down my throat?

A) It's video games.
B) Back off a bit, please.
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Flake wrote:@Mr popo :That bit in the manual is why I used to think the two of them were connected as well - but then it occurred to that if X WAS a darker what-if where Dr. Light and Wily took longer creating way more powerful robots then there would definitely be prototypes to the equipment the two of them eventually ended up with.
Ok, this statement here just shows that you really just WANT it to be a darker version of Mega Man and the only way you'd be happy is if they explicitly explicitly referred to the original series as I detailed earlier. You are in the minority because you are wrong. This is not an opinion, this is fact.
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Not sure how that does anything to contradict my view point, Mr. Popo.

I've said that Megaman X is a darker retelling where Dr. Light and Dr. Wily took longer creating their robots and as a result created much more powerful weapons than than in the classic series.

It is established that Megaman X was activated for a time before he was encapsulated for his diagnostic testing.

It's also established that Megaman is not Megaman X.

More development time = more variations of hardware.

I see the omission of plot connections IN-GAME to be a pretty significant thing, especially when ALL the other Megaman games have no problem linking themselves together.

EDIT: Okay, if we aren't going to agree to disagree, how about we try this: Explain to me a reason, any logical reason whatsoever, that no mention of the events of the 10 megaman games is ever made in any of the 8 X games?
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Guys they're connected because X goes through a time machine to help Mega Man defeat Vile in the cartoon series. Oh snap!


/THREAD OVER

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Ah, good times. Good ol' Goku voicing Mega Man, hah. And wow that intro was pretty badass seeing it again after all these years. Man the voices are so ridiculous, but they definitely were in MM8 and the later X games as well. :lol:
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Xeogred wrote:Guys they're connected because X goes through a time machine to help Mega Man defeat Vile in the cartoon series. Oh snap!


/THREAD OVER
Lol. And then they played soccer! I used to get up at 6 am every Sunday to watch that cartoon!

...and then ten years later I bought it on DVD and wondered where the awesome show I'd remembered from my childhood was.
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