dsheinem wrote:Retrodude, is there any movie you don't think is at least "ok" or "good"?
Harold And Kumar Go To White Castle. That is the absolute worst movie I've ever had the displeasure of sitting through. Worse than the film itself, though, is the effect it had on comedy films as a whole. Sure there were vulgar comedies before, but excessive vulgarity and toilet humor for no reason didn't completely overrun the genre until Harold And Kumar became a big hit and everyone else just followed suit. I point the finger at that movie and say that Harold And Kumar completely destroyed comedy films. It's to the point that if a comedy film is rated R for "crude and sexual humor" (which is most of them these days), I automatically assume it's terrible and pass. I'm not the sharpest tack in the drawer, but even I know when my intelligence is being insulted. By contrast, one of my favorite comedies is Clue The Movie. Tim Curry's never been funnier and his manic performance in the last twenty minutes has to be seen to be believed.
I thought the trend of vulgar/gross-out humor in modern comedies started with American Pie?
AppleQueso wrote:I thought the trend of vulgar/gross-out humor in modern comedies started with American Pie?
I didn't like American Pie either, but what I meant was that before Harold And Kumar, those kinds of films didn't dominate the genre to the degree they do now. There were still good comedy films being made (like Meet The Parents) and it was easier to ignore the excessively crude ones. Now, the excessively crude ones are the majority and the ones that aren't are few and far between and I think you absolutely can blame that on Harold And Kumar's massive success. That's part of the reason why I enjoyed The Green Hornet as much as I did, because it managed to be genuinely funny without being excessively crude. It's a shame they'll never follow up on it.
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AppleQueso wrote:I thought the trend of vulgar/gross-out humor in modern comedies started with American Pie?
I didn't like American Pie either, but what I meant was that before Harold And Kumar, those kinds of films didn't dominate the genre to the degree they do now. There were still good comedy films being made (like Meet The Parents) and it was easier to ignore the excessively crude ones. Now, the excessively crude ones are the majority and the ones that aren't are few and far between and I think you absolutely can blame that on Harold And Kumar's massive success. That's part of the reason why I enjoyed The Green Hornet as much as I did, because it managed to be genuinely funny without being excessively crude. It's a shame they'll never follow up on it.
I wouldn't call Harold and Kumar a "massive" success. American Pie, which was already pointed out, was a much bigger success before it and launched an entire series of movies.
But this genre is nothing new. If anything, you should blame National Lampoon for them.
AppleQueso wrote:Super Mario Bros. isn't a good movie, but it's got its charms and definitely has its fans. Super Scope Devolution gun!
House of the Dead has no redeeming values of any kind though. It's just really, really bad.
The Wizard is a cheesy good movie about video games. But SMB doesn't even qualify for that. It's just plain awful. The movie doesn't resemble Mario Bros. at all except for in name. The costumes and special effects are terrible, and not in a good way. And it pretty much killed any chance of Nintendo venturing into movies for a long time.
I wish Nintendo would try again. How cool would a Zelda or Metroid movie be?
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AppleQueso wrote:Super Mario Bros. isn't a good movie, but it's got its charms and definitely has its fans. Super Scope Devolution gun!
House of the Dead has no redeeming values of any kind though. It's just really, really bad.
The Wizard is a cheesy good movie about video game. But SMB doesn't even qualify for that. It's just plain awful. The movie doesn't resemble Mario Bros. at all except for in name. The costumes and special effects are terrible, and not in a good way. And it pretty much killed any chance of Nintendo venturing into movies for a long time.
I wish Nintendo would try again. How cool would a Zelda or Metroid movie be?
I remember there being rumblings of a Metroid movie in development a good while back. Probably caught in development hell.
I'm not going to really argue that the Mario movie was good, but what can I say? I enjoy watching it. The ways it distorts the Mario universe and mythos is kinda facinating, and there's the insanely bad dumb jokes. I don't know, I can't really articulate why I enjoy it, I guess I just do for some inexplicable reason.
