Final Fantasy XIII-2

[Xeogred]

Yeah, XIII's character drama (I'll say that since it had like no real plot) was already convoluted enough as it was... I kind of assumed adding in time travel into the mix would make it even worse.

[Gamerforlife]

Yeah, XIII's character drama (I'll say that since it had like no real plot) was already convoluted enough as it was... I kind of assumed adding in time travel into the mix would make it even worse.

The time travel stuff just comes out of nowhere too. Nothing in FF XIII even hinted at time travel. It just feels like they forced some writers to come up with some way of extending FF XIII's story, no matter how ridiculous....kind of like they did with FF X 2 (a sequel to a game that didn't need a sequel)

I think the concept of an FF game with a time travel storyline is good. I mean Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross had good stories as far as I can remember, but FF XIII-2 is just crazy. In fact, you start to feel like the story is retconning itself as it goes along. That's how confused and convoluted it is. Amidst all this time travel nonsense, Valhalla somehow gets thrown into the story. I fail to see the connection between Norse mythology and time travel, but given how insane FF XIII'2's story is they could have had Thor from The Avengers show up and it wouldn't even have surprised me. The game would just label Thor a "paradox" like it calls every single other thing in its story that doesn't make any sense.

[ZeroAX]

but given how insane FF XIII'2's story is they could have had Thor from The Avengers show up and it wouldn't even have surprised me. The game would just label Thor a "paradox" like it calls every single other thing in its story that doesn't make any sense.

Heck with all the costumes (Ezio, Mass effect, ect.) I'm surprised he's not in there.

[Gamerforlife]

I finished it. I posted my thoughts in the games beaten thread. I enjoyed it overall. Oddly enough, I'm going to go against the grain and say that I loved the ending. I've seen a couple different sources bashing it. I get the anger if it's just due to the fact that the ending presents us with a, "to be continued." However, if the ending was just left as is, without implying that there is more to come either by sequel or DLC, I would have loved it. I can't say why though since it's spoilery. I did actually talk about the ending in the games beaten thread, but with spoiler tags. Anyone curious can see my thoughts there. Yes, the story as a whole is kind of a mess, but they ended it in a way that I like and didn't expect. Actually, I'll put a brief little spoiler here

Apparently, in messing around with time so much, they ironically completely fucked themselves over, creating the worse case scenario at the end of the game that they were actually trying to prevent. It's a bit of a time travel cliche I guess, but you don't expect an FF game to end this way. Not only that, but one of the main characters dies. It's this dark, twisted, Twilight Zone like ending. I love it! Unlike Mass Effect 3, this sort of ending works for this game. The main characters inadvertently kill God (who is female in this game's universe) and unleash the apocalypse on the world, sending the world into a hellish future where time ceases to exist and the boundaries between life and death disappear. It a weird sort of way, they accomplish what the game's main villain was trying to accomplish, and it's because they actually stopped him

[GameMasterGuy]

Now try and get the alternate endings!

[Gamerforlife]

Now try and get the alternate endings!

I plan to, but I think the game only has one "canon" ending. It's still fun to see the other choices though, very Chrono Trigger-ish

I'm quite pleased with this game overall I have to say. I've come to realize that what I really come to rpgs for, even more so than the stories, is the optional stuff. I'm a completionist, a perfectionist. Seeing all this post game stuff in FF XIII-2 really excites me. I can't wait to max level my characters, beat every uber boss, get all the trophies, see the different endings, etc, etc. I love building uber powerful characters and wiping out every threat in the game, and I love being able to replay the whole game with my godlike characters too. Kudos to SquareEnix for the new game plus mode(though it's not technically a new game plus)

FF XIII lacked that extra content. I was happy enough with the monster hunts, but it's nice that this game has a bit more to offer in finding fragments, getting different endings, collecting monsters, arena battles, DLC, new game plus, etc.

Also, I'm going to come right out and say it. FF XIII-2 is better than Xenoblade. I may be one of like a handful of people who feel that way, but I keep jumping back into this game and putting off Xenoblade. Not that Xenoblade isn't getting some play time out of me, but a lot more of it is going into FF XIII-2. Xenoblade's story is the only thing that actually make me come back to it. The combat system is boring compared to FF XIII-2, and walking around this huge overworld doing a million fetch quests and repetitive sidequest over and over again in Xenoblade gets boring really fast. This may just be me going against the grain again as I so often seem to do, as most rpg nuts seem to place Xenoblade way above FF XIII-2, but that's how I feel about it.

[GameMasterGuy]

I'd get the DLC ASAP. Sure, they may be pretty hard early on, but if you wait too long, you'll just plow through them.

[Gamerforlife]

Also, I'm going to come right out and say it. FF XIII-2 is better than Xenoblade. I may be one of like a handful of people who feel that way, but I keep jumping back into this game and putting off Xenoblade. Not that Xenoblade isn't getting some play time out of me, but a lot more of it is going into FF XIII-2. Xenoblade's story is the only thing that actually make me come back to it. The combat system is boring compared to FF XIII-2, and walking around this huge overworld doing a million fetch quests and repetitive sidequest over and over again in Xenoblade gets boring really fast. This may just be me going against the grain again as I so often seem to do, as most rpg nuts seem to place Xenoblade way above FF XIII-2, but that's how I feel about it.

Just to add to that part I put in bold print, I hate how doing side quests in Xenoblades seems to be the only way to level up. Fighting regular enemies just gives you really crappy XP. So you have to do those boring side quests to hit decent levels. You'd think with over 400 side quests, Xenoblades could try and vary things up a bit, but it's the same crap in every new area of the game. Go and kill a bunch of monsters for some p***y who can't do it himself, or do a bunch of stupid fetch quests for some useless lazy loser who can't do it him/herself.

I'd get the DLC ASAP. Sure, they may be pretty hard early on, but if you wait too long, you'll just plow through them.

That's a good idea. I've downloaded about half of it already, just a few more optional boss battles for me to download, and I might purchase those Mass Effect outfits too, though I think the prices for outfits are ridiculously high. The Requiem of a Goddess DLC is excellent, and the party member you get is so ridiculously badass

[Gamerforlife]

I should apologize for bashing on Xenoblades. I like that game quite a bit, but it gets so much praise for stuff that FF XIII-2 also does, or does better. Some people rave about its combat. FF XIII-2(and FF XIII as well) have better combat. Some people rave about the conveniences Xenoblades offers like being able to save anywhere, or teleport between locations. FF XIII-2 has a save anywhere feature, and areas you revisit have chocobos everywhere so you can easily get around quickly while avoiding battles. Also, optional activities in FF XIII-s are not nearly as tedious and repetitive as side quests in Xenoblades.

There's really only one area where Xenoblades thrashes FF XIII-2 and that's in the story department. I'll also give Xenoblades credit for having the better soundtrack(not that there's anything wrong with the one in FF XIII-2), and if it wasn't on the Nintendo Wii, I imagine that Xenoblades' graphics would probably be on par with FF XIII-2 (minus CGI cut scenes)

[dreamcast4ever83]

I should apologize for bashing on Xenoblades. I like that game quite a bit, but it gets so much praise for stuff that FF XIII-2 also does, or does better. Some people rave about its combat. FF XIII-2(and FF XIII as well) have better combat. Some people rave about the conveniences Xenoblades offers like being able to save anywhere, or teleport between locations. FF XIII-2 has a save anywhere feature, and areas you revisit have chocobos everywhere so you can easily get around quickly while avoiding battles. Also, optional activities in FF XIII-s are not nearly as tedious and repetitive as side quests in Xenoblades.

There's really only one area where Xenoblades thrashes FF XIII-2 and that's in the story department. I'll also give Xenoblades credit for having the better soundtrack(not that there's anything wrong with the one in FF XIII-2), and if it wasn't on the Nintendo Wii, I imagine that Xenoblades' graphics would probably be on par with FF XIII-2 (minus CGI cut scenes)

I love final fantasy 13-2 alot pretty muxh for the reasons you listed and it's just way better then 13 atleast for me as for xenoblade I got it a week ago and i have put about 15 hours in and what i will say is im likeing the story and it fells great playing an open world jrpg on the wii.

I love playing it and will finish it at the same time i get annoyed sometimes and bored sometimes so i dont think its the be all end all like people say but it's a really good rpg.

I do wish they would explain things a bit better with battles and things but i figured it out anyways