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Hobie-wan wrote:
And of course the fact that the trust is already broken. Having someone try to screw you and then apologize is of course not as good as not having tried to screw you in the first place.
These are my sentiments exactly. Microsoft tried to pull a fast one on consumers, they respond in mass about their distaste for their move and they proved it with their wallets; they were not going to buy the system.

Microsoft then turns around and changes their move, but because they felt it was the wrong move, but because people called them out.

The trust really is broken and further entrenches a negative connotation to their name. Not to mention they still have the always on Kinect even when it is "off," and their disrespect to the Japanese market... yes it is region free, BUT their isn't a release date for it and the overall Asia rollout isn't until the end of 2014.

I still think their decisions are irrevocable in the big picture of this generation of system, but they are just trying to cut their losses, which were enormous.
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BogusMeatFactory wrote:
Hobie-wan wrote:
And of course the fact that the trust is already broken. Having someone try to screw you and then apologize is of course not as good as not having tried to screw you in the first place.
These are my sentiments exactly. Microsoft tried to pull a fast one on consumers, they respond in mass about their distaste for their move and they proved it with their wallets; they were not going to buy the system.

Microsoft then turns around and changes their move, but because they felt it was the wrong move, but because people called them out.

The trust really is broken and further entrenches a negative connotation to their name. Not to mention they still have the always on Kinect even when it is "off," and their disrespect to the Japanese market... yes it is region free, BUT their isn't a release date for it and the overall Asia rollout isn't until the end of 2014.

I still think their decisions are irrevocable in the big picture of this generation of system, but they are just trying to cut their losses, which were enormous.
I fail to see how trust was broken. They announced the system with all the bad qualities attached. Gamers spoke up and voiced their opinion on it. Microsoft listened and changed things.

I'd MUCH rather have a company that listens to it's customers and acts accordingly. That's a great thing. They never "pulled a fast one" on anyone, that would imply trickery or lying of some sort. Which they never did. They made a bad decision, and when called out on that bad decision, changed that decision.
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BurningDoom wrote:They never "pulled a fast one" on anyone, that would imply trickery or lying of some sort. Which they never did. They made a bad decision, and when called out on that bad decision, changed that decision.
Don't you see? They're all cackling maniacally like the members of the Springfield Republican Party, trying to destroy our way of life. And they would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids. The "fast one" was their assumption that no one would read anything ever (which, given the 360 demographic, wasn't a bad plan).
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Do you really think they got together in a board room and said, "You know what? we really do care about the consumer and want to cater to their needs. We will remove these features that we spent time and money developing because it is the right thing to do."

No. they realized no one would buy their product and is going back on it because they want to save face; a face which is covered in egg.

I personally won't be happy with whatever they do because of what they envision is the future of videogames and home entertainment and it is a vision that I do not share. Just because they aren't going to do it now, doesn't mean it won't be tried in the future.

Of course, I am not really looking for microsoft to appease me, because I never wanted the product in the first place.
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Yeah, I'm sure it was totally Microsoft "listening to consumers" and looking out for us, like they are so famous for. Definitely wasn't a direct reaction to combat PS4 for anything.
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Does anyone actually think that Microsoft did this out of any motive other than the bottom line? Does anyone actually think that any company does anything without "will this make us more money?" being the core motivation behind the decision?

I feel like you guys are yelling at something that doesn't exist.

This is a good move for consumers. What actually motivated them to make that move is irrelevant.
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BogusMeatFactory wrote:
I personally won't be happy with whatever they do
Seems like a lot of this in this thread. Everyone is in an uproar due to their console features, so they change these features and people think that Microsoft is now untrustworthy anf fickle?

Sure, it would have been nice if they announced the ultimate console ever from the get-go, but I think they are going in the right direction.
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AppleQueso wrote:Does anyone actually think that Microsoft did this out of any motive other than the bottom line? Does anyone actually think that any company does anything without "will this make us more money?" being the core motivation behind the decision?

I feel like you guys are yelling at something that doesn't exist.

This is a good move for consumers. What actually motivated them to make that move is irrelevant.
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MrPopo wrote:
AppleQueso wrote:Does anyone actually think that Microsoft did this out of any motive other than the bottom line? Does anyone actually think that any company does anything without "will this make us more money?" being the core motivation behind the decision?

I feel like you guys are yelling at something that doesn't exist.

This is a good move for consumers. What actually motivated them to make that move is irrelevant.
I only shop from companies run by Mother Teresa.
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dunpeal2064 wrote:
BogusMeatFactory wrote:
I personally won't be happy with whatever they do
Seems like a lot of this in this thread. Everyone is in an uproar due to their console features, so they change these features and people think that Microsoft is now untrustworthy anf fickle?

Sure, it would have been nice if they announced the ultimate console ever from the get-go, but I think they are going in the right direction.
Maybe Microsoft will buy CAVE so they don't go out of business. :P Then I will definitely get an Xbox One.

A lot of gamers here seem pretty biased against Microsoft regardless of their policies. Or maybe it's just the very vocal minority.
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