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Re: Shmup of the Month Club (Great Mahou Daisakusen)
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:04 am
by dsheinem
64,970 - Stage 2 - MAME - that's my first Metal Black entry.
I like this one, but I must warn people: DON'T play the PS2 port on Taito Legends. It is slow and jerky, to the extent that it really ruins the game. I played it first for a good hour or so before moving to the MAME cabinet, and the difference in fluidity was extremely noticable - it is like haveing a Gradius ship with no speed powerups vs having one with a couple: the slowness and poor control is very noticable and will certainly impact your ability to dodge and weave.
I need to figure out how the bonus stages work and how to best use the beam mechanic, but I like that the scoring seems (at least for now) to be very basic (especially compared to last month). I see myself sticking this one out

Re: Shmup of the Month Club (Great Mahou Daisakusen)
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:06 am
by noiseredux
dsheinem wrote:DON'T play the PS2 port on Taito Legends. It is slow and jerky, to the extent that it really ruins the game.
Ticked: Dave just preemptively ruined my night.

Re: Shmup of the Month Club (Great Mahou Daisakusen)
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:08 am
by dunpeal2064
Don't worry Noise, I'm playing the ps2 port. No PC for MAME, and I sure as hell and not seeking that pcb out.
I've played it a good amount and didn't notice any issues. But, I have never played it in MAME.
Shmups has the scores comparable at least, so if it is a little jerky, at least we know the scores are comparable.
Re: Shmup of the Month Club (Great Mahou Daisakusen)
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:11 am
by dsheinem
dunpeal2064 wrote:Don't worry Noise, I'm playing the ps2 port. No PC for MAME, and I sure as hell and not seeking that pcb out.
I've played it a good amount and didn't notice any issues. But, I have never played it in MAME.
Shmups has the scores comparable at least, so if it is a little jerky, at least we know the scores are comparable.
It is more than a little jerky. I'm sure someone else can play both and confirm this, but I think the PS2 version is nigh unplayable by comparison.
Noise, you have PC gaming up and running, why not just play it in MAME?
Re: Shmup of the Month Club (Great Mahou Daisakusen)
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:13 am
by dunpeal2064
Huh, I've played the game up to stage 4 and never had any issues. Could it be buggy on specific models of the ps2?
Usually things like that bug the crap out of me.
KAI has a 400k ALL on shmups, and many others are playing it with no complaints... which, for that place, is usually saying something.
What exactly do you mean by jerky? Input delay?
Re: Shmup of the Month Club (Great Mahou Daisakusen)
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:14 am
by noiseredux
dsheinem wrote:Noise, you have PC gaming up and running, why not just play it in MAME?
if I find the PS2 version unplayable, I'm sure I will. But I've learned from experience (last month) that I'm less likely to stick with an emulated game consistently. I can't even explain why. It's in my head.
Re: Shmup of the Month Club (Great Mahou Daisakusen)
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:16 am
by dsheinem
dunpeal2064 wrote:Huh, I've played the game up to stage 4 and never had any issues. Could it be buggy on specific models of the ps2?
Usually things like that bug the crap out of me.
Not sure. I am playing on a slim.
The shmups people note problems too with the Taito US release. Apparently it is better on the JPN version:
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 746#260746EDIT: it looks like, in addition to slowdown, there's a problem with focusing the laser beam properly.
Re: Shmup of the Month Club (Great Mahou Daisakusen)
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:20 am
by dunpeal2064
Hmm, so apparently, according to shmups, there is a bug in the western TLII release where it has an issue refocusing the bomb? No idea what that means.
Re: Shmup of the Month Club (Great Mahou Daisakusen)
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:22 am
by dsheinem
dunpeal2064 wrote:Hmm, so apparently, according to shmups, there is a bug in the western TLII release where it has an issue refocusing the bomb? No idea what that means.
Yeah, I added that to my post above. if you don't absolutely have to play the PS2 Taito Legends 2 US port, don't. I wonder how the Saturn port rates?
Re: Shmup of the Month Club (Great Mahou Daisakusen)
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:23 am
by dunpeal2064
According to Shmups, the jp release of TLII and the Saturn port are perfect.