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BoneSnapDeez wrote:
I watched the episode when it aired, as I'm a pretty big fan of Ramsay stuff. That woman was nuts, felt bad for her staff.

She is a complete nut, and the "haters" response to the episode was something crazy.

Her staff looked like your typical well to do kid who needs a few bucks, and the owner receives the tips? Who would ever leave a tip if they knew it went to the owner?

Love Gordon. He's one of the very few "celebrity" chefs that every James Beard award winner admires.

What about that time he planted rats in the kitchen because the "nightmare" wasn't bad enough for the show?

Retrodude wrote:What about that time he planted rats in the kitchen because the "nightmare" wasn't bad enough for the show?

What about it?

I guess it's just me, but I honestly wondered how his show wasn't cancelled after that. Then again, all "reality" shows are fake, but they don't usually involve deception on the part of the producers unless it's Candid Camera or something.

Retrodude wrote: ...but they don't usually involve deception on the part of the producers unless it's Candid Camera or something.

Yes they do. Always have.

Luke wrote:

Retrodude wrote: ...but they don't usually involve deception on the part of the producers unless it's Candid Camera or something.

Yes they do. Always have.

That's the entire basis of the reality show format.

MrPopo wrote:

Luke wrote:Yes they do. Always have.

That's the entire basis of the reality show format.

Feel free to google "scooterman don", or don't. Either way, his wife and my wife make pretty awesome friends, and Don and I share a lot of common interests, plus he's smarter than the average engineer.

His scooter or bmx group (didn't watch the show so eliphino) on America's Got Talent went pretty far. I trust the duder 100% when he told me "Luke, they were like 'can you please cry for the camera?'"

Expected. The closest we ever got to real reality tv may have been early episodes of "The Lucy Show" and "I Love Lucy". A script was there, but you could tell that anything flew. The improv, ad-libbing, off the cuff humor, the super hamming up every physical comedy scene...perfect.

Totally get if someone says "Lucy and her ilk like Buster Keaton stink". That is the opposite of my opinion. Granted, when it was filmed weighs heavy on my opinion.

Luke wrote:Expected. The closest we ever got to real reality tv may have been early episodes of "The Lucy Show" and "I Love Lucy". A script was there, but you could tell that anything flew. The improv, ad-libbing, off the cuff humor, the super hamming up every physical comedy scene...perfect.

Honeymooners. Gleason would not go to rehearsal most of the time to make it more humorous for the camera.

fastbilly1 wrote:

Luke wrote:Expected. The closest we ever got to real reality tv may have been early episodes of "The Lucy Show" and "I Love Lucy". A script was there, but you could tell that anything flew. The improv, ad-libbing, off the cuff humor, the super hamming up every physical comedy scene...perfect.

Honeymooners. Gleason would not go to rehearsal most of the time to make it more humorous for the camera.

Great call.

The first Real World was fairly gravitating as well.

The only show on TV right now that I would say is not planned is Duck Dynasty. Sure parts of it are, like all the scenes with the women as the focal point, and sure they ham up their accents and characters. But when the guys just decide they are going to go and build something, well that is just like my brother in law. Who one day decided he was going to build a john boat and spent the afternoon building it. By evening he was finished and floating it in his above ground pool that he raises fish in, so he decided to start fishing in it.