SNES Classic coming September 29th

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BogusMeatFactory wrote:
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BogusMeatFactory wrote:That Nintendo is using the snes classic as a marketing tool? What else would they make their product for?
Making an entire product, then making sure almost nobody can buy it, simply in the hope that it will lead to better sales of an entirely different product isn't a normal strategy I'm familiar with so I thought it was an interesting point of discussion.

I still don't see why you think I'm upset by it. I already bagged my preorder. :lol: I'm perfectly happy for Nintendo to sell me the exact nostalgia I crave in a tiny little box. I'm not going to buy a Switch because of it though...and I'm sure as heck not going to subscribe to Nintendoflix or whatever they come out with. I'll be interested to see if the strategy works for them.
That's cool, you don't have to. No one is putting a gun to your head and telling you to buy a switch and subscribe to their $20 a year service. I just am sensing an odd fixation is all. What glaring omissions are being left out of the snes classic? How do you know that the snes classic will have the same production issues the nes classic will have? Why care that much when you already are getting one?
I don't know why talking about a system I'm eagerly awaiting the arrival of in a thread set up to do just that makes me have an "odd fixation". There isn't much to do other than speculate right now, but since this thread had veered off into a discussion about the N64 (partly due to my initial comment about it) I thought I'd post my latest thought about it to pull it back on track.

To answer your questions.

1. I don't think there are "glaring omissions" and, in fact, my post was theorizing about why one of the only obvious ones I can think about was left off for some Kirby golf game. It could also be that Nintendo is trying to fill different genres and needed something loosely themed around "sport". As I said, Super Tennis isn't a franchise like Kirby is so it makes business sense to put a mascot game on their instead.

2. I don't think the SNES Classic will have the same "production issues as the NES classic"...because, as I've mentioned, I don't think there were any production issues. It was a conscious decision by Nintendo to do this. They've been quite public in the past about not wanting to put their games out on mobile devices for fear of lowering the stock of their back catalogue (despite everyone and their aunt knowing how to obtain these games for free).

3. "Why care that much when you are already getting one?

Are you asking me why I post in a thread about something I'm excited to get (presuming I do in fact get one, which is still something of a nervous worry if pre-orders aren't fulfilled). That seems an odd question and one I don't really understand.
Are you somehow suggesting I shouldn't have anything to say about the system and the theories around its existence because of this?
I really don't understand what you are getting at other than seemingly implying that I shouldn't be posting my thoughts here if they are anything other than sunshine and rainbows.
I hope it isn't that. :(
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I think we may have had a miscommunication issue on my end haha. I am sorry if I came off as crass. I misread in the end and appreciate the clarification on your part!

Why must the written word be so vague and open to interpretation and why must I always interpret folks as complaining! I blame the internet!
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I'm still hoping that Nintendo might be hiding a few extra roms on the system as unlockables. You never know since Starfox 2 is unlocked this way the system does seem to have some differences to the NES classic.

I'm quite content with the line-up to be honest. After years of fighting for 60hz games I'm just glad Nintendo is giving Europeans the games they deserve and sod the nostalgia of playing Contra as a pink robot.

I have my Pokefami DX handheld and a Super UFO so access to SNES games isn't an issue for me. Despite this there are still several games on the list I've never properly played:

Super Punch Out
Kirby Superstar. (although I owned the DS version)
Kirby's Dream Course
Mega Man X
Final Fantasy III (I've been meaning to start this for decades)
Earthbound
Starfox 2

So there's plenty of fresh stuff on there for me besides the nostalgia for me to discover.

Plus I have unfinished business with Secret of Mana which I never beat, despite beating the sequel this year and I'm determined to finally take down Contra III on Hard mode.

Speaking of beating games, if Nintendo is going to let the system recognize this in Starfox then it would be cool if it did this for every game in some way, maybe with something similar to the medal system found in the Neo Geo collections.

I know, I'm daydreaming. :lol:
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Would be nice, but I still think if you go by marking reasons leaving on Pilotwings was the one glaring mistake from the system as it still is around and peddled. F-Zero has been an outlier with a terrible mini game on Nintendoland, and then the by release trolling of it on Smash Bros. People keep demanding a new one, they don't get it, yet oddly Pilotwings did on 3DS when it came out.

It would be good if they did have another unlock or two. One could easily question why this over that in the same franchise, but fan love aside it's kind of obvious why FF3 was over FF2. It is a question, but then again 3rd party choice, if going by current franchises to peddle for attention, why ghosts n goblins(nes ce) and super ghouls n ghosts (snes ce.) There hasn't been a new one of those in years outside of a terrible touch mobile game and that PSP title a decade ago.

Either way it's a solid lineup, and by amusing coincidence I own the lot of them, but just to have that Star Fox 2 legit and the HDMI choice with a teeny Nintendo made portable makes me want it.
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Tanooki wrote:if going by current franchises to peddle for attention, why ghosts n goblins(nes ce) and super ghouls n ghosts (snes ce.) There hasn't been a new one of those in years outside of a terrible touch mobile game and that PSP title a decade ago.
Probably because Nintendo only cares about pushing it's franchises. It was probably just happy to take whatever 3rd party games it could get to bolster them.
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Betagam7 wrote:
Tanooki wrote:if going by current franchises to peddle for attention, why ghosts n goblins(nes ce) and super ghouls n ghosts (snes ce.) There hasn't been a new one of those in years outside of a terrible touch mobile game and that PSP title a decade ago.
Probably because Nintendo only cares about pushing it's franchises. It was probably just happy to take whatever 3rd party games it could get to bolster them.
I saw super ghouls n ghosts as an iconic game on the system. It fills that hardcore challenge slot for the system to continue the theme of, "A little something for everyone."
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PresidentLeever wrote:It's also unlikely that more than a few of the devs that actually worked on these games get money from you buying the SNES mini, which could be spent on supporting them with what they do now instead while downloading these games instead. It's kinda like record companies profiting off of dead artists.
Those artists all signed contracts to that effect though, as did the developers who worked on them. Most artists in any medium accept that in exchange for working in a field they love and getting the maximum exposure for their art.

Creative people should always be paid for their creativity but if you choose to sell the rights to your work or contract out your creativity then you can't then gripe about it later unless you were somehow legitimately scammed into doing it.

Buying ancient second hand carts for over-inflated prices doesn't benefit those artists either. Most of them won't be starving on the streets cursing the SNES mini, instead they'll be content that their work is now being preserved as timeless.

If I were someone who worked on one of those games, I'd rather have on my CV that I worked on a game still being commercially sold by Nintendo to this day, rather than saying I worked on a game that was very popular 20+ years ago and is now a collectors item to a handful of people on ebay.
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SHIT!!!!!! I just read that in the us no retailers is taking pre orders. Because of FCC approval
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I saw that, probably true. Not like it will not get it, but until the US govt gives it, they won't setup a preorder just like that newest xbox has that problem too.
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Tanooki wrote:I saw that, probably true. Not like it will not get it, but until the US govt gives it, they won't setup a preorder just like that newest xbox has that problem too.
I've seen it dismissed elsewhere and the theory that its the retailers themselves who are asking Nintendo to get their act together first and give concrete numbers before they begin taking pre-orders. Presumably as they don't want a situation where they have to renege on pre-orders with customers.
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