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Pulsar_t wrote: I get the Russkies' mutual interests with Ass-ad's regime, but China? :roll:
The more the US wastes its time dealing with the middle east, the more they can develop their economy and overpower them financially?

I mean it's not like they want another crazy neighbor with nuclear weapons, but they aren't doing much to stop Iran either.
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Pulsar_t wrote:Syrian defectors are outnumbered and outgunned, really disheartening that they have no support from the Arabs or Nato so far. The timing is perfect to rid the world of yet another fascist regime.
China and Russia are huge dicks.
I'm all for a quasi-isolationist stance, but even the Arab League wants Assad to go. Russia and China are just worried that they'll be the targets of this sort of action if they allow us to take out someone who massacres their own people.
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o.pwuaioc wrote: I'm all for a quasi-isolationist stance, but even the Arab League wants Assad to go. Russia and China are just worried that they'll be the targets of this sort of action if they allow us to take out someone who massacres their own people.

If you get to the point where people won't stop even if you shoot them and bomb them, you've pretty much lost. It's just a case of how long, and at what cost till you fall.
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ZeroAX wrote:
o.pwuaioc wrote: I'm all for a quasi-isolationist stance, but even the Arab League wants Assad to go. Russia and China are just worried that they'll be the targets of this sort of action if they allow us to take out someone who massacres their own people.

If you get to the point where people won't stop even if you shoot them and bomb them, you've pretty much lost. It's just a case of how long, and at what cost till you fall.
Not always. There have been failed revolutions. Assad is especially dangerous, unlike Mubarek but like Qaddafi, in that he doesn't care at all about how he kills. We can only hope that there are enough defectors to be able to overcome superior firepower.
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o.pwuaioc wrote: If you get to the point where people won't stop even if you shoot them and bomb them, you've pretty much lost. It's just a case of how long, and at what cost till you fall.
Not always. There have been failed revolutions. Assad is especially dangerous, unlike Mubarek but like Qaddafi, in that he doesn't care at all about how he kills. We can only hope that there are enough defectors to be able to overcome superior firepower.[/quote]


Yeah but in those cases the first killings made people stop. He's killed so many people and it only makes people more angry rather than afraid.....well I'm sure they are afraid, but I guess some things are worth dieing for.
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Just read today that the US apparently abandoned their embassy in Syria. Something's a-foot.
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PixelPunk wrote:Just read today that the US apparently abandoned their embassy in Syria. Something's a-foot.
I would withdraw from my embassy, too. There's no safety there.
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ZeroAX wrote:I mean it's not like they want another crazy neighbor with nuclear weapons, but they aren't doing much to stop Iran either.
Assuming Iran is trying to get nuclear weapons (although, who in that area wouldn't), China and Russia would likely prefer to have another power in the region to curb the Israeli/USA shenanigans. Who do you think is calling for an attack on Iran in the first place?
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ZeroAX wrote:I mean it's not like they want another crazy neighbor with nuclear weapons, but they aren't doing much to stop Iran either.
Assuming Iran is trying to get nuclear weapons (although, who in that area wouldn't), China and Russia would likely prefer to have another power in the region to curb the Israeli/USA shenanigans. Who do you think is calling for an attack on Iran in the first place?
Iran is, when their president said that he wanted to "wipe Israel off the map."
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Zing wrote: Assuming Iran is trying to get nuclear weapons (although, who in that area wouldn't), China and Russia would likely prefer to have another power in the region to curb the Israeli/USA shenanigans. Who do you think is calling for an attack on Iran in the first place?

Military power? Specially one that buys weapons from them? Yes. Nuclear armed power? No no no no no no no no no. The world doesn't need another North Korea. Countries that survive solely on their military may change their target anytime.
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