I'm sooo not ready for kids...

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Hatta wrote: Also, I should point out in the research that I mentioned, it is true that couples without kids are happier than couples with kids. But single people are even less happy, and don't live as long. So kids or not, be thankful for your partner.

Good point.

I don't have any sources, as I haven't searched for any, but I've heard that people with pets have a happier life, and even live longer. I'll google it for myself later.

That all said, some of my friends pets annoy the everliving life out of me.

Guess it's like kids. Some have good parents, some don't.
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1.) I don't think anyone is saying that money doesn't help with happiness at all. If you don't make enough to provide for yourself and you're family you're probably not going to be happy. A single mom working 15 hours a day who still can't make her way is not going to be as happy as a mom working 40 hours a week who makes $100,000 a year. However, studies have shown that once you reach a certain income/debt ratio no amount over that necessarily makes you happier. i.e. the guy with a daily driver and his fun weekend car is probably just as happy as the guy with a garage of 800 classics that he never drives.

2.) Nobody said they don't like money or that they'd give it away to prove a point, dear god what an idiotic argument. Most everyone is just saying that if they had to they would trade their wealth for companionship.

3.) Huge quantities of money have been shown to actually decrease the quality of life for a lot of people. Lottery winners for example. The ones that don't blow their money often have fallings out with their family and friends over borrowing/giving away money or who got how much.
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dsheinem wrote:
Inazuma wrote: Thanks to being scammed over by religion and losing everything (including $80k
care to elaborate?
I was raised a Scientologist by my family. Even went to a Scientology high school. Also, most of my friends and people around me were Scientologists. Like many other religious kids, I wasn't raised to think for myself. Scientology basically said "This is how things are. Do this or you are fucked."

Despite all of this negative influence on me, I always had some doubts about it. I never agreed 100% with Scientology but the times I would resist or try to quit, someone would pull me back in and convince me to continue. I wasn't fully able to think clearly back then so I was easy to control.

When I was around 20 years old, I was convinced by my mother to move into the Scientology hotel and spend most of my time working on "going clear" there. According to the mother fuckers at Scientology, we all have a bad portion of our mind that negatively affects us. The only way to remove it is to pay Scientology a fuck ton of money and undergo heavy counseling. It's basically brainwashing as far as I'm concerned.

So I gave them all my money (80k or so), moved into the hotel and starting working on going clear. I was serious about doing it and felt it would help my life but once I started, I began having more doubts.

This is when I first started to really think about what I was doing and if it was right or not. It was very difficult to consider that all the Scientology stuff I've learned throughout my life could be bullshit but I eventually determined that it really was. Fuck Scientology; I had gone "clear" without their help. I finally was able to think for myself and I never wanted to go back to being a mindless sheep being pulled along by others.

Now that I had finally come to this realization and had the ability to think rationally, of course I decided to quit Scientology. Easier said than done. When my family heard about this they turned on me. Without their support, I had no way to get out of that hotel since I had no money, no car and no place to live (my family called the hotel and had them turn off my internet connection as well!). That was the low point of my life and I started to consider suicide. I think there was one or two days when I didn't eat or do anything. I just stayed in bed and tried to stay asleep the whole time. Eventually my mother gave in and agreed to take me out of there and let me live with her.

If the people at Scientology learn that someone is smart enough to see through their bullshit, they label them as a "suppressive person" and ban them from Scientology. That's what happened with me, but on the positive side, I managed to get a good portion of my money back from them. My mother actually helped get the money back because she felt partially responsible for convincing me to give them all my money.

So after this ordeal, I started to look at the world with an open mind. What a massive difference! I could see things that were impossible to see before. This is why I tend to disagree with society on many subjects, such as marriage, children, laws, morals, being gay, religion, everything. The average Joe is unable to think rationally, so he cannot comprehend the truth, just like I used to be. If I met the current me back when I was a fool at age 19, I would have thought the same way most people think of me now.

So yeah, I hate religion with a burning passion. I hate how most kids are raised to be closed minded idiots. I hate seeing the state of the world we live in. Thanks to all of this bullshit being forced down everyone's throats, the world is fucked and so are the people. I can try to teach people to think logically and rationally but it never works. They end up using childish name-calling on me refuse to have a proper conversation with me. It's frustrating but at least I'm trying to help.

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Religion is a scam and it's probably the number one reason for the world's problems.
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Scientology is not a religion. It is a cult. Some may say they're the same but they're not.
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Inazuma wrote: I was raised a Scientologist by my family.
I think I understand you a lot more now. I'm not being sarcastic either, growing up in that environment can't be mentally healthy. I'm really surprised you haven't been ex-communicated from your parents.
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Luke wrote:
Inazuma wrote: I was raised a Scientologist by my family.
I think I understand you a lot more now. I'm not being sarcastic either, growing up in that environment can't be mentally healthy. I'm really surprised you haven't been ex-communicated from your parents.
Everything now snaps into focus. It's unfortunate that in the process of breaking away from Scientology you've gone to the other extreme on the spectrum.
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MrPopo wrote: Everything now snaps into focus. It's unfortunate that in the process of breaking away from Scientology you've gone to the other extreme on the spectrum.
My brother-in-law's girlfriend was recently ex-communicated from her family since she left the Jehovah's Witness.

She had her first birthday party and Christmas this past year, and loved every minute of it.
She actually leaps at the opportunity to bake birthday cakes. She even made my wife's birthday cake (A Unicorn cake) this past year.

Scientology is a whole different level of weird. Some, not the majority but a good chunk, of my friends in LA say that Scientology is nothing but a cult to help hide homosexual relationships. I've no clue to what actually goes on with Scientology, but I do know it's helped a lot of actors who seem super gay to find a woman to love them. And what I do about Scientology is limited, because people in Scientology don't want you to know unless you pay them.
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And what I do about Scientology is limited, because people in Scientology don't want you to know unless you pay them.
Which is all you really need to know. Cash scam, nothing more.
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Hatta wrote:
And what I do about Scientology is limited, because people in Scientology don't want you to know unless you pay them.
Which is all you really need to know. Cash scam, nothing more.
There was a good South Park episoded about Scientology. Season 9, episode 12.
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