VC vs ROM

[deathclaw]

and for god's sake..downloading games from the internet IS stealing! Somebody has put a lot of work, time and abilities into it and you just download it?

[corn619]

On a PC the graphics are better, has much better resolution and has plugin support. Plus I don't have to worry about storage problems on a PC. And about illegally downloading them if you own the cart already why pay for it twice. Its much easier to play from a PC than the cart or VC. I also know my cart and rom will work 10 years from now but my download off the Wii probably won't. I like owning my games, not leasing them for a few years. Also my setup is wireless with PS2 controllers and my PC hooked up to my 42" 1080P LCD so I pity your 17" crappy logitech setup.

why would not it work even 20 years from now? and I doubt that everybody that downloads rom, or even set of roms had bought the original cartridge before

The Wii's build quality is shoddy at best wouldn't you agree? Its not meant to last unlike there past consoles and when it breaks and Nintendo closes the Wii's online service for a new one good luck trying to redownload them. This whole download games and add ons crap is a big scam. Companies just want full control of there product so you can play it when THEY want you to. Also so they can charge premium price for there storage devices. Just look at M$ they charge way to much for HDD just so you can store the games you paided for. I will take a disc or cart over a download anyday. Discs and carts you can sell, downloads don't resell for to much. The day this industry goes to all downloads and no discs is the day I put down the controller.

[deathclaw]

On a PC the graphics are better, has much better resolution and has plugin support. Plus I don't have to worry about storage problems on a PC. And about illegally downloading them if you own the cart already why pay for it twice. Its much easier to play from a PC than the cart or VC. I also know my cart and rom will work 10 years from now but my download off the Wii probably won't. I like owning my games, not leasing them for a few years. Also my setup is wireless with PS2 controllers and my PC hooked up to my 42" 1080P LCD so I pity your 17" crappy logitech setup.

why would not it work even 20 years from now? and I doubt that everybody that downloads rom, or even set of roms had bought the original cartridge before

The Wii's build quality is shoddy at best wouldn't you agree? Its not meant to last unlike there past consoles and when it breaks and Nintendo closes the Wii's online service for a new one good luck trying to redownload them sucka.

I do not have a wii, but I think, that the games work even without internet connection..and about the quality - look at the NES. It was built from very cheap components..and it still works great! more than 20 years from the release..You might blow up to cartridges, but otherwise, most NES's still work perfectly..and when at it, I think Nintendo will support your games that you bought via VC, even if there will be WII 2

[corn619]

Knowing the new Nintendo's franchise milking money loving ways I'll agree to disagree. The N64 is a little over 10 years old do they still support that? I can bet they won't even repair it. The money they charge for these pieces of digital content is a little excessive don't ya think? Considering they already made millions from the product anyway.

[Pulsar_t]

I totally agree with corn619. I'll go a step further and suggest that more game companies release their 20+ year old games under a public license like GNU/GPL which would still allow them to sell their games if they wish to continue milking them. Sometimes a company like id Software takes the initiative but the desired effect is nowhere to be found.

[deathclaw]

Knowing the new Nintendo's franchise milking money loving ways I'll agree to disagree. The N64 is a little over 10 years old do they still support that? I can bet they won't even repair it. The money they charge for these pieces of digital content is a little excessive don't ya think? Considering they already made millions from the product anyway.

if there is high enough demand they can set the price they set. And who talks about the support of the N64? I do not think they would do it, I do not even see the reason to. But you have talked about wheter it is or is not going to be playable for years to come..and as long it works, it is gonna work, there is no need to support it.

[corn619]

Knowing the new Nintendo's franchise milking money loving ways I'll agree to disagree. The N64 is a little over 10 years old do they still support that? I can bet they won't even repair it. The money they charge for these pieces of digital content is a little excessive don't ya think? Considering they already made millions from the product anyway.

if there is high enough demand they can set the price they set. And who talks about the support of the N64? I do not think they would do it, I do not even see the reason to. But you have talked about wheter it is or is not going to be playable for years to come..and as long it works, it is gonna work, there is no need to support it.

You must work for Nintendo. And about supporting the N64 all I was trying to point out was Nintendo's history for backwards compatibility and support for their older systems suck. The Wii is the first system to break this cycle and its only because the Wii is Gamecube 1.5. If they offered updated graphics or extra content for the price they charge for the original VC download they would expand there customer base greatly. I will be frank I hate the Wii, it has very few good games and even fewer great original games. I had one but traded it in for a brand new Steel Battalion game and controller, mint Xbox, component cables and a bunch of games. It gets used far more than my Wii ever did. And the graphics and games are better. I love pre Wii Nintendo as much as the next guy, but I'm going to finish this topic by saying theres a reason Nintendo removed the word "Quality" from there seal.

[deathclaw]

Knowing the new Nintendo's franchise milking money loving ways I'll agree to disagree. The N64 is a little over 10 years old do they still support that? I can bet they won't even repair it. The money they charge for these pieces of digital content is a little excessive don't ya think? Considering they already made millions from the product anyway.

if there is high enough demand they can set the price they set. And who talks about the support of the N64? I do not think they would do it, I do not even see the reason to. But you have talked about wheter it is or is not going to be playable for years to come..and as long it works, it is gonna work, there is no need to support it.

You must work for Nintendo. And about supporting the N64 all I was trying to point out was Nintendo's history for backwards compatibility and support for their older systems suck. The Wii is the first system to break this cycle and its only because the Wii is Gamecube 1.5. If they offered updated graphics or extra content for the price they charge for the original VC download they would expand there customer base greatly. I will be frank I hate the Wii, it has very few good games and even fewer great original games. I had one but traded it in for a brand new Steel Battalion game and controller, mint Xbox, component cables and a bunch of games. It gets used far more than my Wii ever did. And the graphics and games are better. I love pre Wii Nintendo as much as the next guy, but I'm going to finish this topic by saying theres a reason Nintendo removed the word "Quality" from there seal.

No, I don't work for Nintendo And about nintendo and its supporting read something about the first home console of Nintendo - NES

The final games released for the system were as follows: in Japan, Adventure Island IV, and, in North America, among unlicensed titles, Sunday Funday was the last, whereas Wario's Woods was the last licensed game (also the only one with an ESRB rating).[15] In the wake of ever decreasing sales and the lack of new software titles, Nintendo of America officially discontinued the NES by 1995. Despite this, Nintendo of Japan kept producing new Nintendo Famicom units up until October 2003, when it discontinued the line. Even as developers ceased production for the NES, a number of high-profile video game franchises and series for the NES were transitioned to newer consoles and remain popular to this day. Nintendo's own Super Mario Bros., The Legend of Zelda, and Metroid franchises debuted on the NES, as did Capcom's Mega Man franchise, Konami's Castlevania franchise, and Squaresoft's (now Square Enix's) Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest franchises.

Nintendo of Japan continued to repair Famicom systems until October 31, 2007, attributing the decision to discontinue support to an increasing shortage of the necessary parts

and I agree with you that wii has the least great games..though it is worth getting at least for Mario Galaxy and party gaming..and while at it, you could find a bunch of other great/good games..but yeah, Wii attracts me the least when it comes to next-gen consoles..but wait for new zelda!

[superlarz]

I do not understand why some people are so adamantly against ROMs, but do not complain about the buying/selling of used games. Whether legally/illegally obtaining a ROM or buying a used game from ebay, Gamestop, off of this site etc. the developers of the games are making the same amount of money. If I wanted to play a classic like Panzer Dragoon Saga, I basically have two choices. I would be forced to pay a reseller a ton of money or illegally find an ISO. I would be more than happy to contact the devs for the game, but there is no chance they will let me purchase it off of them for the original MSRP. Personally, I prefer playing the original software on its original hardware, but sometimes this is not an option. The point though, is that even if I pay someone for a game on the internet/yard sale/flea market or download the ROM offline the originally publisher gets nothing. I do not see a difference. Now, if that same game is released/going to be released on a service like the Virtual Console, then it is a different story. All things considered, I usually try to buy the original cart/disk off of a reseller, but sometimes that just isnt possible. The VC is a good option, but I dont like playing NES/N64/Genesis games with the controller.

[Citizin]

I'd take a controller of my choice over a fucking remote