32x doesn't need power supply? Huh?

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molotovwars wrote:I've been meaning to get a 32x, but want to be clear on the cords I will need for one. I have the Sega Genesis I with Sega CD side attachment, (thought I don't have any Sega CD games ATM, so I use just the Genesis portion disconnected from the Sega CD).

If I buy a 32x, it seems I need a power cord, is there also an AV cord or something to go from the 32x to TV? As far as the power cord goes, someone posted a link to this: http://www.ztnetstore.com/product_info. ... cts_id/243 and people responded that this was the same power cord as used for the Game Gear, which I have a few of so thats shouldn't be a problem.
genny out to tv is it.
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I am bumping this thread because I have come across the exact thing the OP was experiencing and hope to find some sort of answer. The OP can be found quoted below. Essentially, when turning off my 32X/Gen2/CD2 beast, the power remains on after pressing the power button unless I pull the plug directly from the 32X (which I would greatly prefer not having to do).

I am positive I am using all the correct power adapters. However, I do not have the plastic spacer which sits between the 32X and Genesis nor do I have the metal prongs which go between the 32X and Genesis. I do not know if that could cause this behavior. I am also using an off-brand minidin cable, but I doubt the A/V cable is eliciting power issues.

When the 32X is removed, the CD2/Gen2 combo works as it should and the Genesis alone works as it should. Any speculations on why this is occurring and what I may be able to do to prevent it is greatly appreciated.
nova1313 wrote:So I previously had a genesis1, sega cd side model, and a 32x. When you ran all three you needed 3 power supplies one for each. When I got a new model 2 genesis I replaced the genesis 1. I am able to play 32x games without the power supply in the 32x. If I have it in the whole combination will not shut down until I pull the power from the 32x. Is this normal for a model 2? I was under the impression I needed all power adapters on all systems.

To go from the genesis to the 32x. I'm using a 9 to 9 pin minidin cable I bought off a site on the net. I found it recommended off here. It works great my video was flaky before.
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Czernobog wrote: I am also using an off-brand minidin cable, but I doubt the A/V cable is eliciting power issues.
The A/V port does actually have a pin for +5V. In the official Sega 32x cables that pin is not connected. If it's connected on your cable, it might be routing power from the 32x (which doesn't have an off switch) to the genesis. I'd recommend getting a power strip for all those AC adapters and just turn them all off that way.
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Hatta wrote:
Czernobog wrote: I am also using an off-brand minidin cable, but I doubt the A/V cable is eliciting power issues.
The A/V port does actually have a pin for +5V. In the official Sega 32x cables that pin is not connected. If it's connected on your cable, it might be routing power from the 32x (which doesn't have an off switch) to the genesis. I'd recommend getting a power strip for all those AC adapters and just turn them all off that way.
Wow, wouldn't have thought that! Sounds like that's the most likely cause. Thanks for the info!
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so is this settled, the generic wires are routing power to the 32x and that is not how it was ment to be set up?
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vlame wrote:so is this settled, the generic wires are routing power to the 32x and that is not how it was ment to be set up?
Seems most likely from everything else I've read scouring Google and other random forums, but I can't confirm 100% as I don't have the official Genesis<->32X A/V cable to test it out.
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Czernobog wrote:
vlame wrote:so is this settled, the generic wires are routing power to the 32x and that is not how it was ment to be set up?
Seems most likely from everything else I've read scouring Google and other random forums, but I can't confirm 100% as I don't have the official Genesis<->32X A/V cable to test it out.
you could clip the pins that your wire has that the official wire doesn't. are these wires cheap?
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vlame wrote:
Czernobog wrote:
vlame wrote:so is this settled, the generic wires are routing power to the 32x and that is not how it was ment to be set up?
Seems most likely from everything else I've read scouring Google and other random forums, but I can't confirm 100% as I don't have the official Genesis<->32X A/V cable to test it out.
you could clip the pins that your wire has that the official wire doesn't. are these wires cheap?
About ten bucks, but sometimes they're hard as nails to find if stockcable (I think that was the site) is out of stock. My technical knowledge when it comes to electronics is pretty lacking so I'm hesitant to try anything just because I don't always have a very good understanding of what I'm doing.
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i guess you can find the pin out for the official wire, the one you have and the port they plug into and look for differences. if the 5v+ pin is active in your wire it must be getting power like that.

do you have a G+32x+CD set up or just G+32x?
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There's a pin with 5 volts coming out on the genesis AV Output that is routed to the 32X. Only that particular pin isn't wired to anything on the official sega cable (just a dummy pin on each end of the line) so the 32X never gets that signal even though the other end also has the pin on it.

Using a generic cable feeds the 32X the 5V and fucks up the circuit. In other words if you don't have the legitimate cable or don't know which pin to clip don't use it. I can't remember which one is it at the moment, but google it to find out, clip it off and you should see all your problems go away.
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