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fastbilly1 wrote:Depending on the case you like, you are looking at $500ish to get what you want. A couple of the emulators are very CPU intensive - 3do, CDi, and PS2, and need more than what you can get in the sub $300 range. I can easily price out a system that would run up to Saturn/PSX/N64 mostly fine for $350ish.

Now this is all without factoring in the OS. If you need to, that adds 100-130 to the price for Windows 8 or 7.
really, huh? That's actually more than I'd have expected.
I do not know of a modern card that will output Composite, so you will have to use a composite scan converter. Granted those are only $20 for a good one. Or $40ish for a component scan converter.
What exactly is a component scan converter? (Link?)
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noiseredux wrote:
I do not know of a modern card that will output Composite, so you will have to use a composite scan converter. Granted those are only $20 for a good one. Or $40ish for a component scan converter.
What exactly is a component scan converter? (Link?)
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http://www.monoprice.com/Product/?c_id=101&cp_id=10114

Scan Converter simply takes a signals vertical & horizontal scan frequency and changes it to another. So it takes its scan and converts it...
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fast, maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing. But this seems to do the opposite of the goal here:
This Component Video + S/PDIF audio to HDMI® converter combines your analog high def and/or progressive scan Y, Pb, Pr (Component) video signals with an S/PDIF Digital Coax or Digital Optical Toslink Audio from your source devices and outputs them in HDMI® format.
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noiseredux wrote:fast, maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing. But this seems to do the opposite of the goal here:
This Component Video + S/PDIF audio to HDMI® converter combines your analog high def and/or progressive scan Y, Pb, Pr (Component) video signals with an S/PDIF Digital Coax or Digital Optical Toslink Audio from your source devices and outputs them in HDMI® format.
Stupid hotlinks, try this one:
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Actually, you could go to Best Buy/Cowboom, or Ebay, and buy an old Dell Optiplex and just get a gpu that will fit (mini PCIe). That still wont fix your post 32/64 bit era issue, but it would come in at $250-300.
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fastbilly1 wrote:Actually, you could go to Best Buy/Cowboom, or Ebay, and buy an old Dell Optiplex and just get a gpu that will fit (mini PCIe). That still wont fix your post 32/64 bit era issue, but it would come in at $250-300.
can you elaborate on this a bit? I think what you're saying is that the Optiplex is "an old" computer, but you think still powerful enough to run what I'm looking for? And would be able to handle a mini PCIe card that would output to component?
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noiseredux wrote: can you elaborate on this a bit? I think what you're saying is that the Optiplex is "an old" computer, but you think still powerful enough to run what I'm looking for? And would be able to handle a mini PCIe card that would output to component?
Optiplex is their standard business machine line, so it'd really vary - but that type of machine isn't too hard to find off-lease/refurb for under $200. Some of the smaller form factors they can come in would likely work for the general size you want, and most business machines are quiet.

For example, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6883265547 would be something to tinker with.


If you're looking at actually building, or a modern machine, then I think it gets harder. I mean, you can go cheap with Mini-ITX integrated stuff like an E350 or whatnot. But, an i3 isn't much more...and if you're buying a nice case, etc then it makes more sense in my mind.
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ok, yeah that's sort of what my line of thought had been as well. Something like that seems pretty rational. I don't need a huge HDD or anything either. And yeah, it's pretty built to start and then just need to customize a few components.

This is mostly brainstorming though right now. Probably a back-burner project for a bit.
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noiseredux wrote:
fastbilly1 wrote:Depending on the case you like, you are looking at $500ish to get what you want. A couple of the emulators are very CPU intensive - 3do, CDi, and PS2, and need more than what you can get in the sub $300 range. I can easily price out a system that would run up to Saturn/PSX/N64 mostly fine for $350ish.

Now this is all without factoring in the OS. If you need to, that adds 100-130 to the price for Windows 8 or 7.
really, huh? That's actually more than I'd have expected.
Sent the PM before reading this thread. Guess you're not going to like my advice either :lol:

I've been in the same boat. Trying to build a mini-ITX system that can handle emulation. I keep coming out between $300-$500 and just can't seem to get it under that point. The best I've been able to find is a Nettop for $200 that can handle up-to and maybe including n64 emulation. Bleh...
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jinx wrote: I've been in the same boat. Trying to build a mini-ITX system that can handle emulation. I keep coming out between $300-$500 and just can't seem to get it under that point. The best I've been able to find is a Nettop for $200 that can handle up-to and maybe including n64 emulation. Bleh...
Yeah I definitely want this to cover post-N64 stuff.

I guess the thing is I can justify the $300-$500, but just not all at once. I don't want to just plunk down $300-$500. If that's the price range, then fine, but then I'd rather buy in pieces as I have spare $ and time to put into the project.

In your PM you mentioned Linux - I'm guessing Linux is no good for more obscure emulators though (3DO, CD-i, etc)?

@Fast: just to confirm, the reason that you had mentioned that Dell Optiplex is because buying a smaller case (like: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811154091 ) would not have the capability of installing a GPU with component out?
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