N64/Tri-Star 64 RGB Help?

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Ziggy587 wrote:If the gist of what darkcat was saying was that it wouldn't be worth it to mod the Tristar, then I agree. The Tristar is an older unit, you're likely to get much better results from a newer clone console. I haven't heard of the RetroN 5 unitl now, but I just Googled it, it sounds great. I have no idea how accurate gaming is on it compared to real hardware, but it is more than likely MUCH better than the Tristar. Taking all that into account, I think it would be a better option, and you'd be avoiding the hassle of trying to mod the Tristar for RGB.
True, true, it's certainly not the only option I have for a multi-system of NES, SNES, N64, etc. that I've been thinking of. One of the main things getting in the way of me getting a (say) RetroN 5 is N64 support, which probably won't be in clone systems for a few years now. The question is whether I'm getting an old N64 (NTSC RGB modded) or a clone N64 multi system a few years away from now. And if I am getting a physical N64, why not get a NES/SNES adapter to go with it?

A few options I have:
-Get a RGB modded NTSC N64 & Tri-Star 64, maybe make a few other adjustments and use things like the Super Game Boy, Super Retro Adapter, Famicom Disk System, RetroGen & by extension Power Base Converter
-Make a custom multi-system by trimming the motherboard of various systems and putting them in a custom made case like say the Super Genitari or Project Unity.
-Wait a few years until N64 clones start getting made and so do N64 multisystems.
N64/NES/FC/SNES/SFC/GB (SGB)/GBC (Black)(SGB)/FDS/Satellaview/Genesis/Mega Drive/Master System & maybe N64DD/GBC/GBA.
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rgb modding the consoles alone will be the easiest way to go. I personally if i was worried about video quality (it doesn't bother me much) I would get a rgb modded n64 I know someone in canada that performs this service if you want to me to pm you his email let me know. Then use the retron 5 for everything else via hdmi. or the other option is ripping apart the tri-star and getting a snes to nes adapter and hooking that up and hoping for the best I've seen these at a local game store from what i can remember. The easyest of the all the consoles to mod if the snes so I'd start with that one. Another option is to just get a modded xbox then you can run roms and emulators and the picture is much better.
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darkcat wrote:rgb modding the consoles alone will be the easiest way to go. I personally if i was worried about video quality (it doesn't bother me much) I would get a rgb modded n64 I know someone in canada that performs this service if you want to me to pm you his email let me know. Then use the retron 5 for everything else via hdmi. or the other option is ripping apart the tri-star and getting a snes to nes adapter and hooking that up and hoping for the best I've seen these at a local game store from what i can remember. The easyest of the all the consoles to mod if the snes so I'd start with that one. Another option is to just get a modded xbox then you can run roms and emulators and the picture is much better.
Those sound like good options. Are you also suggesting I use a RetroPort or SNES Super 8/TriStar (which probably won't work because it takes its video output from the SNES's audio/video port) instead of the NES slot? Also, the RetroPort uses separate Composite cables, so SNES RGB may not carry over. Incidentally, both the RetroPort and RetroGen only use a separate composite cable because the SNES doesn't have video feed pins in its cartridge slot. And if I'm not mistaken the SNES's processor is used, so it's not just a separate clone on top of a SNES.
Not to mention this includes hooking the system up to a modern TV, so it may need to be RGB to look good at all. There's also this HDMI N64 adapter in the works and I'm wondering if that works with the Tri-Star 64:
http://retroactive.be/tech.php
N64/NES/FC/SNES/SFC/GB (SGB)/GBC (Black)(SGB)/FDS/Satellaview/Genesis/Mega Drive/Master System & maybe N64DD/GBC/GBA.
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seems like each of the things i was talking about don't have RGB lines, The only real solution i would see is using a upscale device (converter). Other then that you could RGB mod the n64 (with the proper unit) and the snes.
For the converter a jrok converter would work but it will cost around $140 onces all said and done.
If you just mod each system and don't worry about putting them all together get a AV famicom there a lot easier to RGB mod.
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Okay so apparently, the NES part of the Tri-Star 64 can't do RGB and "Only goes to video". So will it look like crap on a HDTV?
Still considering what to get for some kind of multi-system of NES/SNES/N64 and maybe more...
EDIT: If we can use NES-RGB parts on a Famiclone like this, could we technically use this NES-HDMI thing on it too?
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NES didn't internally generate RGB. There's none to be cloned in the first place.

Even then clones are usually aimed for a very cheap audience who doesn't care about RGB, assuming they know what it is. Pretty sure a lot of SNES and Genesis ones leave it disconnected.
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There's the Famicom Titler if you really wanted an RGB capable NES.

I hope you have deep pockets though!
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AppleQueso wrote:There's the Famicom Titler if you really wanted an RGB capable NES.

I hope you have deep pockets though!
I don't, I'm just hoping that the NES part of the RGB Tri-Star 64 won't look like arse on the HD TV I'm using.
N64/NES/FC/SNES/SFC/GB (SGB)/GBC (Black)(SGB)/FDS/Satellaview/Genesis/Mega Drive/Master System & maybe N64DD/GBC/GBA.
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In all likelihood honestly it'll probably look worse than a regular NES.
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AppleQueso wrote:In all likelihood honestly it'll probably look worse than a regular NES.
Ouch.
But hey, it's probably worth it to have NES, SNES & N64 all on one system, right? :)
Though again I ask what cables the Tri-Star 64 & N64 will use when they are RGB modded (maybe RGB cables?). Because hey, at least you wouldn't have to deal with the blurriness/colour bleeding of composite if it's RGB.
And will the HDMI adapter for N64 work with it?
http://retroactive.be/tech.php
N64/NES/FC/SNES/SFC/GB (SGB)/GBC (Black)(SGB)/FDS/Satellaview/Genesis/Mega Drive/Master System & maybe N64DD/GBC/GBA.
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