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Menegrothx wrote:
BurningDoom wrote: I agree that you need more SNES games, and I'd suggest stocking up on PS1 and PS2 games while they're so cheap.
PS1 games (except sports games) haven't been cheap for a long time.
Ps1 games have pretty much stagnated in price for the past few years, while everything else it seems (nintendo especially) has been on a steady climb.
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Menegrothx wrote:
BurningDoom wrote: I agree that you need more SNES games, and I'd suggest stocking up on PS1 and PS2 games while they're so cheap.
PS1 games (except sports games) haven't been cheap for a long time.
I'm able to find a ton of PS1 games (JRPGs excluded, of course) for quite cheap. A LOT of them for under $10.
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Menegrothx wrote: It has a heavy emphasis on dialogue, there are no random battles and majority of gameplay time is spent in cities talking to people.
I have been told that you only need to kill one character in the game, which is always cool. I'll keep it in mind :wink:

On the PSX games you listed, I've been told that Oddworld games are very unique, but I'm not really attracted to them for some reason. The rest, they are cool but I don't think they make the cut compared to similar games and I don't really have much space!

LSD is weird in an artsy way but I don't think I want to own it at all. They should do a remake one day, without the annoying walking sound. Love it or hate it, it seems!

I'm absolutedly terrible at 3D platformers. Really, really terrible. I dig Jumping Flash's art style, though, so I'll keep it in mind.
I think there are some new guns and gameplay elements in Q2 and beyond (like the railgun) which make it slower than the original.
Oh, it is slower. It's slower in the same way a bullet train is slower than the Concorde :lol:

BurningDoom wrote:Interesting collection. Not huge, but at the same time full of some rarities. I can see that you're definitely more of a PC guy than a console guy
Oh, I guess I am, though PC games covering four generations of consoles probably has something to do with it!

My arcade favourites list must have more games than all other platforms together, though. :lol:


Your collection is pretty rounded, it's cool. So many unpalyed games! Though I can understand why you haven't beaten R-Type.

Seems you don't like strategy games, how come? :)
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Go buy Sonic 3 right NOW. Plug it into your Sonic & Knuckles cart. Play through the entire game. You will be amazed at it and will wonder why you hadn't done that earlier.

Get NES Ninja Gaiden II. You should be able to beat it after a while. It's actually doable unlike part I and III.


Once you have completed these tasks, report in for a new assignment which will probably be Mario 3 and or Mario World.
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General_Norris wrote: I have been told that you only need to kill one character in the game, which is always cool. I'll keep it in mind :wink:
You can actually beat the last two bosses of that game by talking your way out of the fight. It's a game where you are rewarded for putting talent points in intelligence and wisdom as a fighter (although naturally it's advised that you play through the game as a mage). There's no other RPG like that.
Breetai wrote:Go buy Sonic 3 right NOW. Plug it into your Sonic & Knuckles cart. Play through the entire game. You will be amazed at it and will wonder why you hadn't done that earlier.
Sonic 3&Knuckles is inferioir compared to 1&2, maybe even CD. It's quantity over quality, exactly what General_Norris isn't looking for in a game (if I'm not entirely mistaken).
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Menegrothx wrote: Sonic 3&Knuckles is inferioir compared to 1&2, maybe even CD. It's quantity over quality, exactly what General_Norris isn't looking for in a game (if I'm not entirely mistaken).
I completely disagree, and so do many others (not on CD; that's my top one). S3&K absolutely oozes quality.
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Breetai wrote:
Menegrothx wrote: Sonic 3&Knuckles is inferioir compared to 1&2, maybe even CD. It's quantity over quality, exactly what General_Norris isn't looking for in a game (if I'm not entirely mistaken).
I completely disagree, and so do many others (not on CD; that's my top one). S3&K absolutely oozes quality.
The stages are longer and more well themed (well, by that I mean that there's sort of a "transition phase" between two zones and Act 1 and 2 aren't the same) but as a result of relative "hugeness", level design is not as tight as it was in 1&2, which is the reason why those games were so great. I should play CD again to refresh my memory, but I think that despite the cool effects and music, CD wasn't on par in the level design deprartment with 1/2, but it was still better than S3&K

Sonic 3 and Sonic&Knuckles aren't by any means bad games, they are great, one of the best 16 bit platformers. They're just not as flawless as 1&2. It's not a big deal to play through S3&K and it's definitely worth the trouble, but should a person only be intrested in playing the absolutely flawless pinnacles of gaming, I wouldn't say that it's nessesary to play through all of the classic Sonic games, 1 and/or 2 are enough.
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Menegrothx wrote:
Breetai wrote:
Menegrothx wrote: Sonic 3&Knuckles is inferioir compared to 1&2, maybe even CD. It's quantity over quality, exactly what General_Norris isn't looking for in a game (if I'm not entirely mistaken).
I completely disagree, and so do many others (not on CD; that's my top one). S3&K absolutely oozes quality.
The stages are longer and more well themed (well, by that I mean that there's sort of a "transition phase" between two zones and Act 1 and 2 aren't the same) but as a result of relative "hugeness", level design is not as tight as it was in 1&2, which is the reason why those games were so great. I should play CD again to refresh my memory, but I think that despite the cool effects and music, CD wasn't on par in the level design deprartment with 1/2, but it was still better than S3&K

Sonic 3 and Sonic&Knuckles aren't by any means bad games, they are great, one of the best 16 bit platformers. They're just not as flawless as 1&2. It's not a big deal to play through S3&K and it's definitely worth the trouble, but should a person only be intrested in playing the absolutely flawless pinnacles of gaming, I wouldn't say that it's nessesary to play through all of the classic Sonic games, 1 and/or 2 are enough.
I don't think the level design Sonic CD should be directly compared to the cartridge Sonic games at this point. Back in 1993, sure, of if you are comparing in general, but it seems we are going into finer points here. Sonic CD took an entirely different approach to level design. A mainly different (but not entirely) team designed Sonic CD, and it focuses much more on level exploration than the cart games do. It does take away from some of the speed that you think of on the other games, and I love it, but I don't think it's fair to say it's a better design or not when it was intended to be different. It's more of a polarizing thing, where you either like the style more or you don't.

As for comparing Sonic 2 and Sonic 3&K, I guess it's more opinion than anything. S3&K levels tend to be longer (well, compared to the first few zones in Sonic2) with a lot of stuff in them. I really like them, except for Sandopolis 2. They are often epic in scale and it really appeals to some people. The entire S3&K game is incredibly epic. Heck, Sonic 2, 3&K is basically one long saga. Sonic 3 starts directly where 2 ends and just keeps going.

Sonic 2's level design is not without fault. If you complain about the length of 3&K's levels, PLENTY of 2's stages are very long. Metropolis Zone and Oil Ocean are a bit crazy. In fact, Oil Ocean is a bit like Sandopolis (or Marble and Labyrinth Zone of Sonic 1), in that it totally breaks up the pace. Sky Chase Zone in 2 is totally different than other levels. Mystic Cave has a couple of nearly game breaking parts, where there are pits than you can get stuck in and MUST wait out the 10 minute timer before you die! Hardly flawless!!!

At any rate, this is more of an opinion thing than a factual thing. I don't think you can honestly say that Sonic 2 is more "flawless" or "better" than 3&K. They are both 9/10 or 10/10 games I think. Sonic3&K has a much more epic feeling than 2 does. In every way, S&K is the second half to Sonic 3. Actually, it is the last 3rd of Sonic 2, 3 and Knuckles. Norris really ought to get Sonic 3 and play the game as it was intended. Maybe he doesn't know that Sonic 3 adds a save feature to S&K, so it's not such a chore to play right through. It auto-saves after each stage.

Anyway Norris, get Sonic 3. It's super cheap anyway.
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Norris, get Super Mario World. It's better than any Sonic game. 8)
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BoneSnapDeez wrote:Norris, get Super Mario World. It's better than any Sonic game. 8)
It's better than Sonic 1 or Knuckles, but not 2, 3, or CD IMO.
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