Which Model of the Genesis is the best?

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skate323k137 wrote:you can always solder in some RCA's for stereo audio on the model 1's, and may as well grab s-video while you're in there. The simple s-video mod is the same as on the neo geo, one capacitor, a couple resistors, and a transistor.


Why go through that much work? Just buy this for a couple buck and hook it through the Model 1's headphone jack which puts out stereo sound, it works well for me:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mono-Stereo-3-5mm-Headphone-to-RCA-3-Prong-A-V-Video-Audio-Cable-Z04-/110909672003?pt=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item19d2bb4a43
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The European master system converter works on my Genesis model 2.
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BurningDoom wrote:
skate323k137 wrote:you can always solder in some RCA's for stereo audio on the model 1's, and may as well grab s-video while you're in there. The simple s-video mod is the same as on the neo geo, one capacitor, a couple resistors, and a transistor.


Why go through that much work? Just buy this for a couple buck and hook it through the Model 1's headphone jack which puts out stereo sound, it works well for me:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mono-Stereo-3-5mm-Headphone-to-RCA-3-Prong-A-V-Video-Audio-Cable-Z04-/110909672003?pt=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item19d2bb4a43


I don't use a cable like that for several reasons: One, I modded the console to have S-video output, and grabbing the stereo audio is much easier than that mod is. Two, I don't like extra connections or adaptors in any audio chains unless absolutely necessary (This comes from being a record collector); Soldering to the PCB is going to get a cleaner signal than plugging into a ~25-year-old god-knows-how-oxidized headphones jack. Three, my genesis sits behind a glass door that closes on my entertainment center, and I don't want that cable sticking out the front of the console, as the door would hit it. Last, a bag of solder-type surface mount RCA jacks was actually cheaper than that cable. Sure, if you don't know how to solder, that cable is great solution for stereo audio. I personally prefer having the direct RCA out for the reasons I listed here. Yep, I'm a nerd.

The s-video looks great. A picture of my TV doesn't do it full justice:

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Metal Jesus wrote:I have a dream.

I have a dream, and that dream is: one day I will walk into a Goodwill or Pawn Shop and see a CDX sitting next to other "portable cd players" and buy it for cheap. But for now, it's only a dream. :D


This is the image I had in my mind when I read your post :lol: :

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I have a similar dream, and that is to go into a thrift store/pawn shop/flea market stall/wherever idiots may sell what I want, and find a dreamcast with a broadband adapter unlisted as such. That, and finding a Nintendo World Championship cart with the rest if the Zelda carts.

Finding a CDX wouldn't be bad though.
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Hmm... so it seems from what I remember the one I had was a High Definition Graphics Genesis Model 1 TMSS due to the fact I remember the TMSS always coming on along with old family pictures with the High Definition Graphics one there. I'll have to do some looking around then and the Sega CDX seems like a good idea too if I find one (but they seem to be expensive online). These are really great tips to finding the best Genesis for my collection.

I've been wanting to re-build my old collection of games due to the fact that I was upset that I had to get rid of them due to money issues at the time. I had no choice but to sell them or just throw them away because of room and I figure they would just re-release them too. There is nothing more trilling then playing the original games on the original systems. I've already gotten another NES and Sega Saturn (cause my old Saturn was broken) along with a Famicom and Super Famicom. Of course, my game library is kinda small but coming along.
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Konacha wrote:Hmm... so it seems from what I remember the one I had was a High Definition Graphics Genesis Model 1 TMSS due to the fact I remember the TMSS always coming on along with old family pictures with the High Definition Graphics one there.


Is that the model you're gonna get?
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I cannot see how you can go wrong with the original model,i am not too sure with modern alternate methods of connecting Megadrives to tv`s if any but i am in the UK and i still have bad memories of the little pins breaking in the rf cable connection on the Megadrive II ,nightmare design that was :roll: .
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If you don't go for the CDX:

For the Genesis alone any early HD Graphics model is your best bet. I don't know if you're picky about the TMSS or not. They've got the best sound quality by far. The non HD Graphics labeled ones are all perfectly fine too but you take the risk of running into a VA7 which is one of the worst.

If you want to add the Sega CD you're more likely to find a working model 2 Sega CD (plus it just looks better) so that's something to consider. If you can find a 3/4 motherboard model 2 Genesis they have not-as-good but perfectly alright sound in my opinion.
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I've always used my launch model 1 and even though I have a Genesis 2 and an X'Eye I still prefer the audio out of my model 1's headphone jack passed through the Sega CD 1 and the video out of the 32X. I'll play CD based games on the X'Eye, but for the cartridge games I stick to my trusty Model 1.

I recently picked up a Model 1 High Definition Graphics with TMSS though for the purpose of modifying. The first thing I'm going to do is put in 10 and 12Mhz oscillators and the rest it needs to switch between 7.67, 10 and 12 Mhz. I'd only want to S-Video Mod my second 32X, and I'm not sure I want the Crystal Clear Audio mod.
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I have a launch Genesis (the original one I got back in '89). I think it's a VA2. Please note that all model 1 VA2 and lower will only output the RIGHT audio channel though the mono out on the A/V cable and the RF out. It will not mix down the right and left channels into one mono stream. I think VA3 and later revisions do the mix down to mono out of those jacks. Playing in mono sounds really, really weird with a VA2 or lower, especially games like Castle of Illusion where lots of parts of the music are simply gone as a result.
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