Any suggestions?

[TheSSNintendo]

Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
Final Fantasy IV Advance
Final Fantasy V Advance
Final Fantasy VI Advance

[Godot102]

Do yourself a favor: GO GET XENOBLADE!

[isiolia]

Baldurs gate 1&2. Diablo 1&2 and Torchlight on the more action-orientated side. Is Planescape: Torment turn based? I havent had time to play it but I keep hearing that its one of the best PC and RPG games ever so you might want to try that one out if it doesnt have turn based combat.

It's Infinity Engine based, same as the Baldur's Gates and Icewind Dales. It works effectively the way that most Bioware games tend to work - real time, but you can tap spacebar anytime to pause things and queue up commands.

How is fallouts combat real time? You have limited action points.

That would depend on which Fallout game you compare to. The 3D ones do have VATS, but it's not the same as the old hex-grid titles. Really it's an alternate system for shooting, not moving/dodging.

Some suggestions...

Deus Ex games maybe are something to try. If you like those, Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines is fairly similar (in some ways superior) - it's buggy as hell, but the unofficial patch helps with a lot.

Other Bioware titles might be interesting. Jade Empire has beat-em-up style combat, peppered with SHMUP mini-games n' such, with the typical Bioware RPG side. KoTOR is solid, Dragon Age games are good too (if you want more of an action feel, I think the console versions of 2 have you hitting buttons per swing of your sword, and in general 2 copies Mass Effect, a lot).

Guild Wars is also worth consideration. It is online-only, but not a true MMO (2 will be, but 1 isn't). It's possibly coop, but you don't strictly need to play with others as the game lets you flesh your party out with a couple varieties of NPC. It has fast-paced gameplay that is far less stat dependent than most online games. The name is actually a reference to part of the story, not the scope of the gameplay - there is a definite PvP side to the game, but it has extensive PvE content as well. More (and better quality) than it's often given credit for.
Probably something to consider if you'd like a taste of MMO-like gameplay without commitments or many of the negative aspects of the genre.

[Menegrothx]

Deus Ex games maybe are something to try..

Are Invisible War and Human Revolution that different from the original? The original was more or less Bioshock-esque FPS, the RPG elements were really shallow so its probably not what OP is looking for.

Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines

Oh yeah, I have got to second that notion. I havent gotten very far into this game but its been great so far and quite many people think that its one of the most underrated and best RPGs of all time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire:_T ... #Reception

The buggyness is a pretty common problem, actually quite many of the greatest rpgs of 2000-2010 were initially very buggy.

[isiolia]

Deus Ex games maybe are something to try..

Are Invisible War and Human Revolution that different from the original? The original was more or less Bioshock-esque FPS, the RPG elements were really shallow so its probably not what OP is looking for.

Invisible War..not sure, the game locked me in a room very early on and I never bothered to retry it.

HR mostly just tries to make an updated version of the first game. It fails in some respects (like, the bosses, which were outsourced), and doesn't improve on some aspects (like, the endings), but it's good in its own right. I think the first game was still a bit more expansive, but HR does a fine enough job updating it for a new audience.

In either case, you have games that actually require you play the role you want to play, with a lot of different decisions to make. Very similar to Bloodlines.

Bioshock really just has the one - how to deal with Little Sisters. The rest is just a linear path of "would you kindlies".

[Menegrothx]

In either case, you have games that actually require you play the role you want to play, with a lot of different decisions to make. Very similar to Bloodlines.
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I guess. You can sneak around and avoid killing enemies etc. But what I meant is that you can use your skill points on specializing in lock picking or hacking etc but in the end you will end up in the same place anyways. You can specialize in different things but it doesnt make that big of a difference, if you cant hack something open youll just have to go around killing enemies trying to find the key or sneak around in a ventilation shaft for an alternative route.

[MrPopo]

Deus Ex games maybe are something to try..

Are Invisible War and Human Revolution that different from the original? The original was more or less Bioshock-esque FPS, the RPG elements were really shallow so its probably not what OP is looking for.

You meant to say that DX was influenced by System Shock.

[isiolia]

In either case, you have games that actually require you play the role you want to play, with a lot of different decisions to make. Very similar to Bloodlines.
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I guess. You can sneak around and avoid killing enemies etc. But what I meant is that you can use your skill points on specializing in lock picking or hacking etc but in the end you will end up in the same place anyways. You can specialize in different things but it doesnt make that big of a difference, if you cant hack something open youll just have to go around killing enemies trying to find the key or sneak around in a ventilation shaft for an alternative route.

On one level, sure. On another, you can make the choice not to shoot certain groups of people, and have that recognized (munitions gives you more ammo, if you do, the guy doesn't trust you and gives you less). You can hack into systems and get shutdown phrases for bosses rather than kill them. Just in the first mission for HR, there's a group of hostages. If you don't hurry to the landing pad, they get dead. If you don't go out of your way to save them, they get dead. You can activate the device planted near them and kill them. Then you get to the boss (not one of the "I thought we were making Metal Gear" outsourced bosses), who can be talked down, who might shoot someone in the process, who you can outright kill...depending on how you handle that, and plenty more interactions besides, will determine how people see your character, some of the exact events along the way, etc.

There are very few RPGs that have you end up in a wildly different place by the end of the game depending on your choices. Ideally, they would, but dovetailing it all back makes for more economical production I guess.

[Xeogred]

If you like those, Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines is fairly similar (in some ways superior) - it's buggy as hell, but the unofficial patch helps with a lot.

That is one tall order. Definitely been interested in these games for awhile though.

On about the original two Fallout's, I love them and don't. The combat is just straight up bleh, pretty boring, people getting you stuck in doors or shooting each other at corners... lol. Everything else I loved, but it kind of hurts when the combat is just bare bones nothing. I love talking my way out of stuff or avoiding conflict, but not -all- the time!

If it were more like JA2, that would've been nuts.

[Menegrothx]

Deus Ex games maybe are something to try..

Are Invisible War and Human Revolution that different from the original? The original was more or less Bioshock-esque FPS, the RPG elements were really shallow so its probably not what OP is looking for.

You meant to say that DX was influenced by System Shock.

I have only played System Shock 2 but from what I recall, the stat system was more complex than it was in Deus Ex and Bioshock. I mentioned Bioshock as an example because even though you could choose what magic and guns to level, it was still a very straightforward FPS action game and it didnt really make any difference whether you burned or freezed your enemies to death.