The Rise and Fall of Sega Enterprises

[o.pwuaioc]

And Europe is Sony land. It was the first mainstream console here. Well.....if you don't count handhelds.

I don't know about Greece in particular but many Brits would claim otherwise.

[BoringSupreez]

It was in competition with N64 for a longer, more memorable period of time.

Only in the states (where I think the N64 sold like 80% of its units. Probably less, but I remember when I saw the sales by region the N64 did amazingly well in the US and very bad everywhere else.

According to this page, N64 sold 5 million in Japan, 20 in North America, and 6 in Europe/everywhere else. This old IGN article supports low sales in Japan.

And Europe is Sony land. It was the first mainstream console here. Well.....if you don't count handhelds.

IIRC, SMS was fairly popular in Europe.

[ZeroAX]

I was talking about the PS1 era guys. N64 was too expensive (both hardware and software), and Saturn had even less games here than in the US (and it's a shame cause Europe was always Sega's strongest territory, but they screwed up big time with the Saturn).

[o.pwuaioc]

^Ah, gotcha.

The more I think about Sega's screw up with Saturn, the angrier I get. And then I get depressed. The Saturn could have been awesome, it could have dominated. I also could have legitimately collected for it without spending a crap ton of dollars on each game. :/

[BoringSupreez]

^Ah, gotcha.

The more I think about Sega's screw up with Saturn, the angrier I get. And then I get depressed. The Saturn could have been awesome, it could have dominated. I also could have legitimately collected for it without spending a crap ton of dollars on each game. :/

Interestingly, it was the most vulnerable member of the 32-bit gen that triumphed. Even if Saturn had been awesome, N64 would have had its fans simply for being Nintendo. PS1 wouldn't have stood a chance, though. We'd remember it the way we remember stuff like the TG16 and 3DO.

[bacardipr05]

How much do you think pirating effected the Dreamcast? Early on not many people had CD-Burners. Well at least around here anyways. I think this another area where Sega dropped the ball on themselves.

[nyarlathotep88]

Dreamcast, the one of the video game consoles that I have the fondest memory off. The only console I really collect for anymore. I was so sad to see Sega discontinue it so soon. I still play games online with it from time to time

[MulishaSoldier929]

I can tell you that the moment I found out that Shenmue 2 was coming out in Europe and japan but not America on the DC, they lost all future support from me. I let a lot slide but that was the last straw. It felt like a low blow to all the fans here. Could of had the DC go out with a bang instead of just a thud.

[ExedExes]

How much do you think pirating effected the Dreamcast? Early on not many people had CD-Burners. Well at least around here anyways. I think this another area where Sega dropped the ball on themselves.

I think it was just unfortunate that the PS2 was in the pipe and the DC only had 1 solid year to build a userbase. Successful launch, yes. Great, memorable titles, yes. Sega's poor business and marketing decisions with the Saturn debacle not too far behind, YES.

[Aramonde]

I'm basically coming here to mourn and pay my respects to old school Sega.
(shed's a tear and puts a rose on its grave)