Redundant usage of abbreviations (>_<)

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http://www.daltonsatm.com/atmmachines.html

Wow. This is pretty embarrassing. This company is an ATM supplier, but they call it ATM machine all over their website. The URL itself and even their fucking motto get it wrong. (>_<);;

I just sent them a polite email, letting them know about their mistake. I used my real email address so hopefully they reply to it.


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I wonder if we're wrong about this. For example, Danver's Restaurant can still be Danver's Restaurant restaurant. PIN and ATM could be reconstrued as "Personal Identification Number number" and "Automated Teller Machine machine" with the apparent redundancy negated by name and then what type of thing it is. They're not, as far as I know, proper names properly, but they might still be construed as verbal wholes.

Not to say that those who say ATM machine and PIN number are thinking of in this way, but it's possible when you step back and look at the language as a whole.
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o.pwuaioc wrote:I wonder if we're wrong about this. For example, Danver's Restaurant can still be Danver's Restaurant restaurant. PIN and ATM could be reconstrued as "Personal Identification Number number" and "Automated Teller Machine machine" with the apparent redundancy negated by name and then what type of thing it is. They're not, as far as I know, proper names properly, but they might still be construed as verbal wholes.

Not to say that those who say ATM machine and PIN number are thinking of in this way, but it's possible when you step back and look at the language as a whole.
Whatever the situation, if it is actually correct to have redundant words, then it's correct. I have no problem with that.
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My younger brothers used to say RPG game, lol, I had to correct them so many times when we were younger. They finally got it though.
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Inazuma wrote:http://www.daltonsatm.com/atmmachines.html

Wow. This is pretty embarrassing. This company is an ATM supplier, but they call it ATM machine all over their website. The URL itself and even their fucking motto get it wrong. (>_<);;

I just sent them a polite email, letting them know about their mistake. I used my real email address so hopefully they reply to it.
My girlfriend works for a company named Lands' End atm, and they actually have a template email to reply to anyone who sends them a message to tell them that their apostrophe is in the wrong place. I wonder if you'll get one of those back?
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alienjesus wrote:
Inazuma wrote:http://www.daltonsatm.com/atmmachines.html

Wow. This is pretty embarrassing. This company is an ATM supplier, but they call it ATM machine all over their website. The URL itself and even their fucking motto get it wrong. (>_<);;

I just sent them a polite email, letting them know about their mistake. I used my real email address so hopefully they reply to it.
My girlfriend works for a company named Lands' End atm, and they actually have a template email to reply to anyone who sends them a message to tell them that their apostrophe is in the wrong place. I wonder if you'll get one of those back?
How is it in the wrong place? It's the End of Lands. :)
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I wish I could find the relevant article, but this is actually a feature of language. The abbreviations have taken on a meaning independent of what they abbreviate. Frequently people will know what the object an abbreviation is for better than they know the abbreviation.
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Ziggy587 wrote:Ah, I definitely remember talking about this very thing in some random thread. I think Niode brought it up.

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I'm okay with that one because LED stands for other abbreviations too, like company names, etc.
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MrPopo wrote:I wish I could find the relevant article, but this is actually a feature of language. The abbreviations have taken on a meaning independent of what they abbreviate. Frequently people will know what the object an abbreviation is for better than they know the abbreviation.
I bet hundreds that most people don't know what laser stands for.
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