Action-Adventure... isn't

[TornadoCreator]

I think dragon age falls under western pc rpg style. Like baldurs gate and the old fallouts. I dont see it as much as an action RPG.

I was considering making it two seperate genres but I didn't see enough of a difference between say Mass Effect, KOTOR, Dragon Age and Baldurs Gate that wouldn't simple be variations within genres. If you make genres too specific they loose meaning and you may as well just use the game title. 35 genres was already a lot more than I was hoping I'd end with, I was originally hoping I could justify as little as 20.

Diablo 2 is also an RPG. It doesn't belong in th action category or in the same category as zelda. I would say it is a dungeon crawler rpg.

I get more of an action vibe than an RPG vibe, but to be fair the whole "Hack n slash" genre is right on the border of RPG and Action so I'd be happy to move "Hack n slash" into RPG wholesale. Honestly, whether we call it "Hack n Slash" or "Dungon Crawler" I'd say is incidental, they both mean the same thing really... and as for Zelda, not a Dungeon Crawler, yeah.... I was playing A Link To The Past earlier, I crawled though some dungeons, got some amulets, crawled through a castle dungeon and then went into a dark world where I imagine I'll be crawling through some more dungeons. It's the same genre.

[Jmustang1968]

Calling legend of zelda hack and slash is far more laughable than calling it action adventure. In fact, Action Adventure is probably the ebst possible definition for the series.

Stop being such a damn Zelda fanboy just because you don't like how I classified the game. What? Does it sound less impressive if you call it a "hack n slash"? Doen't stop it being one. Shall I prove it? Diablo 2 is clearly a "hack n slash", no-one would dispute that surely, so let's compare.

In Diablo 2 you go though the game fighting enemies in real time from a top down isometric angle, with a single click attack and alternative click special move in order to obtain gold to buy new items, health potions etc. Thoughout the game, you follow NPC's directions into dungeons where you find additional spells and items that you can then use to kill Diablo.

In Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past you go though the game fighting enemies in real time from a top down view, with a single button attack and alternative button item (bomb, boomarang etc), in order to obtain rupees to buy new items, health potions etc. Thoughout the game, you follow NPC's directions into dungeons where you find additional items that you can then use to defeat Ganon.

This is clearly the same genre, if you disagree. YOU ARE WRONG! Want to dispute this, prove your point, don't just say "it's laughable" because it's not and you know it's not, you're just trolling. Becides, if you read on, I said later in the post that if you take a literal meaning of the words "action" and "adventure" and considered what that would entail, the game that best fits the description is Legend Of Zelda so quit being butthurt.

Honestly man, the only one who sounds butt hurt is you because someone disagreed with your classifications. If you are going to get hostile with peple disagreeing with you adsee only what you say as being correct, why even put it up for discussion?

I don't think classifying zelda as a hack n slash is slighting the game, nor were they trying to defend zeldas honor. They were just disagreeing.

[The Last Horseman]

Calling legend of zelda hack and slash is far more laughable than calling it action adventure. In fact, Action Adventure is probably the ebst possible definition for the series.

Stop being such a damn Zelda fanboy just because you don't like how I classified the game. What? Does it sound less impressive if you call it a "hack n slash"? Doen't stop it being one. Shall I prove it? Diablo 2 is clearly a "hack n slash", no-one would dispute that surely, so let's compare.

In Diablo 2 you go though the game fighting enemies in real time from a top down isometric angle, with a single click attack and alternative click special move in order to obtain gold to buy new items, health potions etc. Thoughout the game, you follow NPC's directions into dungeons where you find additional spells and items that you can then use to kill Diablo.

In Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past you go though the game fighting enemies in real time from a top down view, with a single button attack and alternative button item (bomb, boomarang etc), in order to obtain rupees to buy new items, health potions etc. Thoughout the game, you follow NPC's directions into dungeons where you find additional items that you can then use to defeat Ganon.

This is clearly the same genre, if you disagree. YOU ARE WRONG! Want to dispute this, prove your point, don't just say "it's laughable" because it's not and you know it's not, you're just trolling. Becides, if you read on, I said later in the post that if you take a literal meaning of the words "action" and "adventure" and considered what that would entail, the game that best fits the description is Legend Of Zelda so quit being butthurt.

I think you need to quit being

butthurt.

I'm not trying to be mean, but it seems somewhat out of place to just jump on him like that for questioning your opinion. It seems to me you just plain don't like be disagreed with, and the internet is a bad place to be that way.... just mellow out.

And, for the record, I agree with alienjesus. Not hack and slash.

[Jmustang1968]

I think dragon age falls under western pc rpg style. Like baldurs gate and the old fallouts. I dont see it as much as an action RPG.

I was considering making it two seperate genres but I didn't see enough of a difference between say Mass Effect, KOTOR, Dragon Age and Baldurs Gate that wouldn't simple be variations within genres. If you make genres too specific they loose meaning and you may as well just use the game title. 35 genres was already a lot more than I was hoping I'd end with, I was originally hoping I could justify as little as 20.

Diablo 2 is also an RPG. It doesn't belong in th action category or in the same category as zelda. I would say it is a dungeon crawler rpg.

I get more of an action vibe than an RPG vibe, but to be fair the whole "Hack n slash" genre is right on the border of RPG and Action so I'd be happy to move "Hack n slash" into RPG wholesale. Honestly, whether we call it "Hack n Slash" or "Dungon Crawler" I'd say is incidental, they both mean the same thing really... and as for Zelda, not a Dungeon Crawler, yeah.... I was playing A Link To The Past earlier, I crawled though some dungeons, got some amulets, crawled through a castle dungeon and then went into a dark world where I imagine I'll be crawling through some more dungeons. It's the same genre.

Umm no Zelda is not an RPG, but Diablo 2 is.

Baldur's Gate also does not play like Mass Effect. Mass Effect is more of a shooter rpg.

[TornadoCreator]

Diablo 2 is clearly a "hack n slash", no-one would dispute that surely, so let's compare.

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So what? GAME.com thinks New Super Mario Bros. and Carnival Games: Kinect is an "Action-Adventure". That proves nothing.

[Nemoide]

I would agree that the term "action-adventure" is usually a non-description. However, there are a few titles I can think of that don't easily fit into other genres. For instance, Beyond Good & Evil or Psychonauts. They both feature a lot of 3rd-person action, but also contain elements of adventure games; item collection, talking to characters, etc.
Calling them action games undermines the non-action, exploration parts of the games, which take up a CONSIDERABLE portion.

For the video game industry at large, "action-adventure" might just be a box to dump any title which isn't in a more obvious genre (RPG, FPS, RTS), but there are times when it's useful.

[Opa Opa]

So what? GAME.com thinks New Super Mario Bros. and Carnival Games: Kinect is an "Action-Adventure". That proves nothing.

Moby Games: Diablo II: Genre: Action, RPG

Moral of this story: Don't visit Game.com.

[alienjesus]

Diablo 2 is clearly a "hack n slash", no-one would dispute that surely, so let's compare.

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So what? GAME.com thinks New Super Mario Bros. and Carnival Games: Kinect is an "Action-Adventure". That proves nothing.

Except it proves that people would dispute it being a hack and slash. These genres aren't set in stone, and frankly, there's too much crossover and blurred boundaries between them to just be able to define every game within a genre. I would call Super Mario a platformer, but tbh I don't see the problem with calling it an action adventure. There is platforming action, you go on an adventure. voila.

Now, even I would disagree with Carnival games being an action adventure, but thats just the point. Not everyone is going to agree with these classifications and getting angry about it is a pointless and futile exercise.

[o.pwuaioc]

Choosing the particulars for describing genres is arbitrary anyway, so really this discussion is about someone arbitrarily getting angry about one arbitrary distinction. If you really want to persuade people, try defining your terms better. Something doesn't just "feel" an RPG to you, what makes it an RPG? Stats was always the Classic example, and you can't deny that about Diablo 2. If you want to be technical, there's also "stats" in Zelda, as hearts containers are equivalent to levels gained, and glove/armor/shield/sword upgrades are shared with typical RPGs as well.

So let's continue to arbitrarily pick and choose what defines a genre, shall we?

[TornadoCreator]

Honestly man, the only one who sounds butt hurt is you because someone disagreed with your classifications. If you are going to get hostile with peple disagreeing with you adsee only what you say as being correct, why even put it up for discussion?

I don't think classifying zelda as a hack n slash isn't slighting the game, nor were they trying to defend zeldas honor. They were just disagreeing.

A two line response which shows they didn't even read the whole post isn't disagreeing, it's trolling. I'm quick to act hostile towards trolls, I don't mean to make your feel uncomfortable. Sure, if someone wants to disagree with me, great, they should explain why they disagree and we can discuss it. Swaning in, calling my point laughable and not explaining why (especially when they're wrong) or saying anything at all that would further the discussion is trolling. You also disagreed and I wasn't rude with you (or at least I hope you didn't take my response as rude, it wasn't intended as so).