vash23n wrote:I have seen those universal component cables online. They seem pretty decent, but I always worry about them because I remember some other all-in-one products having issues. I think I am going to stick with composite for the N64 and Jaguar and go with component for the Wii and Game Cube. Although it would be nice to smooth out those Jag graphics a little. I do have the model with the digital out port (its model DOL-001 in case anyone is interested).
All this makes me a little pissed that the Wii isn't HD. I never cared as I figured I would never splurge on an HDTV, but now I am annoyed. If they release a Wii that does nothing different other than add HD I will be furious. That would be such a rip like coming out with the motion plus as an add on. I still haven't hooked mine up, because I am annoyed it will make the Wiimotes longer. I have a hunch that I have some pretty great games coming this Christmas so I should get on that.
Why are you mad? This is exactly the reason why Nintendo didn't do HD. Its just 2010 and you're just now getting an HDTV. Was HD necessary from 2006 until about 2009? Did you miss paying and extra $250 so your HD Wii could play on your SDTV? Next gen will be HD, but that won't be the only thing.
If you don't like Wii MotionPlus, then get Wii Remote Plus. Same size, with motionplus built in.
ChuChu Flamingo wrote:If you ask me 480p looks gorgeous on a CRT HDTV that has native resolution of 480p.
If you ask me what is unacceptable about the wii is some games don't have 480p (mad world and mega man 9 and 10) come to mind.
Yet PS3/Xbox 360 versions do. hmm.
I agree, but I think Nintendo is trying to build bridges and mend fences with 3rd parties this generation, and one of the ways they're doing that is by having very few rules for 3rd parties like they did in the past. Unfortunately it appears the problem wasn't Nintendo's treatment of 3rd parties, it was that 3rd parties don't want to have to compete with Nintendo's 1st party awesomeness.
vash23n wrote:I got a 50" HDTV and, though I know none of these systems are HD and that it probably doesn't matter how high quality I get with the cables (especially for the N64 and Jag) I am trying to get rid of a switch box by plugging as much into the TV as I can. I know I can get component cables for the Wii and Game Cube, but did they make the N64 and Jaguar component capable as well? A couple of other posts said that the Game Cube and N64 component cables were interchangeable, but I may have misunderstood.
If your HD supports a now uncommon S-Video hookup, both the Gamecube and N64 use the same inexpensive S-Video cable. If your HD doesn't have S-Video and has VGA, you can get a S-Video to VGA upscaler but with mixed results. The Gamecube is best with the 480p Nintendo Component cable, a pricey option.
vash23n wrote:I have seen those universal component cables online. They seem pretty decent, but I always worry about them because I remember some other all-in-one products having issues. I think I am going to stick with composite for the N64 and Jaguar and go with component for the Wii and Game Cube. Although it would be nice to smooth out those Jag graphics a little. I do have the model with the digital out port (its model DOL-001 in case anyone is interested).
All this makes me a little pissed that the Wii isn't HD. I never cared as I figured I would never splurge on an HDTV, but now I am annoyed. If they release a Wii that does nothing different other than add HD I will be furious. That would be such a rip like coming out with the motion plus as an add on. I still haven't hooked mine up, because I am annoyed it will make the Wiimotes longer. I have a hunch that I have some pretty great games coming this Christmas so I should get on that.
Why are you mad? This is exactly the reason why Nintendo didn't do HD. Its just 2010 and you're just now getting an HDTV. Was HD necessary from 2006 until about 2009? Did you miss paying and extra $250 so your HD Wii could play on your SDTV? Next gen will be HD, but that won't be the only thing.
If you don't like Wii MotionPlus, then get Wii Remote Plus. Same size, with motionplus built in.
That's true. Wow, I forgot how long the Wii has been out already. Time is flying. I have seen the new Wiimotes and I def want to pick up a couple.
Unfortunately my TV does not have S-video capability, which I was surprised about. I think I am just going to go for the component cables for both since those are the systems I use the most - even though the Game Cube cable is apparently difficult to find these days at a reasonable price. This frees up the composite ports, which I plan to use for the DVD player and N64 or Jaguar, not sure yet. Or maybe the DVD is more worthwhile hooking up via component, I have some thinking to do.
You should really think about ditching the DVD player in favor of a Blu Ray Player. They have really come down in price lately if you hook it up HDMI that would free up some ports. If not you should try to connect your DVD player component so you can display it in full 480p which will allow the DVD to look the best it possibly can.
Your Wii you should also get component cables for. It will allow it to display in 480p which makes a huge difference on an HDTV as well.
The other two system's present the problem, because s-video is the best method of connection you can easily achieve in the United States. Component out of those two require expensive converters. You can just continue to hook them up composite to your HDTV, but they will look much worse than they did before, because they output at 240p. Without going into too much video detail this is a very odd resolution that HDTVs are not programmed to handle, so they end up doing a lot more video processing that usual. Anytime you do more video processing a worse image is produced. You're best bet is to save your old tube TV you replaced, and use it in your bedroom, or somewhere else to play systems made before the GCN, PS2, Xbox generation. On the Gamecube front, just use your Wii as one, as GCN component cables costs like $80 on eBay.
If you're insistent on connecting your N64 for Jag via RGB, I would think it would be possible to go RGB Scart to VGA if your TV has a VGA input. CRTGamer would know better, but I don't see why this method isn't possible.
No need to go Blue Ray unless you want the best in resolution. An investment of buying movies that won't work on the bedroom or car DVD player.
However, definitely go with component cables for the DVD Player as well as any consoles that have component capabilities. An inexpensive component switchbox will handle the extra inputs, worth keeping to get the best resolution.
CRTGAMER wrote:No need to go Blue Ray unless you want the best in resolution. An investment of buying movies that won't work on the bedroom or car DVD player.
However, definitely go with component cables for the DVD Player as well as any consoles that have component capabilities. An inexpensive component switchbox will handle the extra inputs, worth keeping to get the best resolution.
I disagree with this. The way I see it, you bought an HDTV to view images in High Definition. DVD is not High Definition, Blu Ray is. There are three major sources of High Definition material out there, Blu Ray, TV, and HD video game systems. It seems to me since decent Blu Ray Players such as the LG BD550 can be had for $100, and the price of BDs, if you shop around, are no longer sold at the excessive MSRP of $30, but often at $15, sometimes as low as $10 normally, and as low as $5 during big sales, makes the Blu Ray Player the best value when it comes to high definition images. Additionally the best high definition images are on Blu Ray. In the end, I fail to see the point of an HDTV that isn't used for High Definition.
Jamisonia wrote:
I disagree with this. The way I see it, you bought an HDTV to view images in High Definition. DVD is not High Definition, Blu Ray is. There are three major sources of High Definition material out there, Blu Ray, TV, and HD video game systems. It seems to me since decent Blu Ray Players such as the LG BD550 can be had for $100, and the price of BDs, if you shop around, are no longer sold at the excessive MSRP of $30, but often at $15, sometimes as low as $10 normally, and as low as $5 during big sales, makes the Blu Ray Player the best value when it comes to high definition images. Additionally the best high definition images are on Blu Ray. In the end, I fail to see the point of an HDTV that isn't used for High Definition.
Sir, I think you're forgetting about HD DVDs. Yes! They exist.
Gaming accomplishments: Nibbler (marathon): 251,169,160 / Nibbler (one life): 5,263,360 (WR) Donkey Kong: 423,100 [L12-1] (150th place as of 2019-01-15) Super Smash Bros. (N64): Ranked top 5 in Wisconsin from Q1 2016 to Q2 2017 Shrek SuperSlam: won largest tournament in game's history (Shrekfest 2018)
