s1mplehumar wrote:Wow. Color me impressed. My primary duty station was just a couple miles shy of Nürnberg, Germany, and that was oh...8 years ago
Nullface wrote:dsheinem wrote:If you think the only thing our veterans have done is fight or kill other people then you are a doubly ignorant fool. I no longer really feel sorry for you, though.
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A good program, I heard some restaurants are doing this, honor your Grandfather. There have been highs and lows of honoring veterans, right now I think most think highly of the Military, Police and Firemen. Don't blame the soldier on the battles, its the politician who decides what lines to cross. Any warrior always wants peace over war, "Peace is our Profession." My Dad and myself are both retired Navy veterans and my brother served in the AirForce.Nullface wrote:I don't believe in glorifying murders. Though my grandpa goes out to eat today because it's free.
dsheinem wrote:Nullface wrote:dsheinem wrote:If you think the only thing our veterans have done is fight or kill other people then you are a doubly ignorant fool. I no longer really feel sorry for you, though.
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Look, I am a big critic of the military in many ways. I disagree with much of our current war on terror, though I realize that because we are involved in them we need to now see it through to some kind of end. I think Vietnam was a mistake. I think that some administrations have used the military in objectionable ways.
That said, idiotic comments like yours about veterans give thoughtful critics, pacifists, or other people who have concerns about military policy a bad name. To refer to the actions of rank and file soldiers that had to carry out those decisions (sometimes being drafted into doing so) as murder is mean spirited at best.
Besides, given the historical context of s1miplehumar's first post, the "murders" you are referring to include perhaps the most important and honorable human actions - military campaigns or otherwise- of the past 200 years. Our veterans played a crucial role in stopping Hitler and in bringing an end to World War I, and I fail to see how that can be considered corrupt or murderous. Sometimes you have to put a rabid dog down, lest he attack your family.
Even if that does nothing for you, you can't deny the contributions of our veterans to everything from infrastructure to medical to technological development - including those video games you like to play (and usually not pay for) and the internet you like to come make an ass of yourself on.
Nullface, I should probably come out and say that I don't particularly care for you much and find your presence on the forums to be abrasive. You stiffed someone on a charity auction (viewtopic.php?f=22&t=10752&start=2440), you posts are often inflammatory and rarely contribute much, you openly embrace the kind of piracy which many of us object to, and here you have the gall to refer to veteran's service - whether in war or not - as "murder." I realize you are 18 and perhaps struggling with what it means to become a man, to form an adult opinion, and to engage in rational debate. I think you will find that many of our veterans have already learned these traits and could teach them to you - perhaps you should sign up!
xan_racketBOY_fan wrote:s1mplehumar wrote:Wow. Color me impressed. My primary duty station was just a couple miles shy of Nürnberg, Germany, and that was oh...8 years ago
Whoa, you were stationed in Germany? I've always wondered what it would be like to be stationed outside the US. Eight years ago ... I was noob in bootcamp!
dsheinem wrote:Nullface, I should probably come out and say that I don't particularly care for you much and find your presence on the forums to be abrasive. You stiffed someone on a charity auction (viewtopic.php?f=22&t=10752&start=2440), you posts are often inflammatory and rarely contribute much, you openly embrace the kind of piracy which many of us object to, and here you have the gall to refer to veteran's service - whether in war or not - as "murder." I realize you are 18 and perhaps struggling with what it means to become a man, to form an adult opinion, and to engage in rational debate. I think you will find that many of our veterans have already learned these traits and could teach them to you - perhaps you should sign up!
dsheinem wrote:Nullface wrote:dsheinem wrote:If you think the only thing our veterans have done is fight or kill other people then you are a doubly ignorant fool. I no longer really feel sorry for you, though.
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Look, I am a big critic of the military in many ways. I disagree with much of our current war on terror, though I realize that because we are involved in them we need to now see it through to some kind of end. I think Vietnam was a mistake. I think that some administrations have used the military in objectionable ways.
That said, idiotic comments like yours about veterans give thoughtful critics, pacifists, or other people who have concerns about military policy a bad name. To refer to the actions of rank and file soldiers that had to carry out those decisions (sometimes being drafted into doing so) as murder is mean spirited at best.
Besides, given the historical context of s1miplehumar's first post, the "murders" you are referring to include perhaps the most important and honorable human actions - military campaigns or otherwise- of the past 200 years. Our veterans played a crucial role in stopping Hitler and in bringing an end to World War I, and I fail to see how that can be considered corrupt or murderous. Sometimes you have to put a rabid dog down, lest he attack your family.
Even if that does nothing for you, you can't deny the contributions of our veterans to everything from infrastructure to medical to technological development - including those video games you like to play (and usually not pay for) and the internet you like to come make an ass of yourself on.
Nullface, I should probably come out and say that I don't particularly care for you much and find your presence on the forums to be abrasive. You stiffed someone on a charity auction (viewtopic.php?f=22&t=10752&start=2440), you posts are often inflammatory and rarely contribute much, you openly embrace the kind of piracy which many of us object to, and here you have the gall to refer to veteran's service - whether in war or not - as "murder." I realize you are 18 and perhaps struggling with what it means to become a man, to form an adult opinion, and to engage in rational debate. I think you will find that many of our veterans have already learned these traits and could teach them to you - perhaps you should sign up!
Nullface wrote:I don't believe in glorifying murders. Though my grandpa goes out to eat today because it's free.
