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Possibly a dumb question, but how come emulation makes the N64 look so much better? Specifically, Project64. That thing completely transforms the look of N64 games on my computer! They all look so bright and vibrant compared to the look of the actual console on my TV. Of course, it might help if I had an s-video for my console, as CRTGAMER said.
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Reprise wrote:Possibly a dumb question, but how come emulation makes the N64 look so much better? Specifically, Project64. That thing completely transforms the look of N64 games on my computer! They all look so bright and vibrant compared to the look of the actual console on my TV. Of course, it might help if I had an s-video for my console, as CRTGAMER said.
They can render the polygons at a higher screen resolution, which makes the edges look cleaner, and they can apply more advanced methods of texture filtering that don't blur the image as much, or replace the textures entirely with custom ones. It's sort of an unfair comparison.
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Just like what Bleem does to PS1 games. Upscales the pic to a higher resolution. PSX Metal Gear looks phenomenal on the Dreamcast.

Get your S-Video cable at Gamestop for five bucks!
This mis-labeled SKU, just avoid the multi console version.
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/Product ... t_id=32149
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CRTGAMER wrote:Just like what Bleem does to PS1 games. Upscales the pic to a higher resolution. PSX Metal Gear looks phenomenal on the Dreamcast.
I just wish there was a way for PSX emulators to get rid of the stupid "wiggle" Sony wrote into their polygon rendering "to expose more detail". It drives me nuts to see everything on the screen constantly twitching for no reason.
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is that what the texture bending and shifting is on PSX games? i always thought it was kind of hilarious looking, especially in Powerslave, where textures will magically resize to fit on screen.
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renardqueenston wrote:is that what the texture bending and shifting is on PSX games? i always thought it was kind of hilarious looking, especially in Powerslave, where textures will magically resize to fit on screen.
Yeah. It's supposedly so that you can see more detail at low resolutions. It never really seemed to accomplish that, and only ever managed to annoy me.
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flamepanther wrote:It's not the output, it's the texture filtering. You make it sound as though the system had a faulty RF modulator or something :P
Nope, it is the output. Though I think it's also a bit of the N64's anti-aliasing that causes the blurring images. As I recall, the console uses a weird anti-aliasing method that only applies in a small neighborhood around visible edges. I think that's why you see the aliasing that you do in, for example, the stairs in Ocarina of Time. (You know, when you're in the main field and can see stairs in the distance and they look like three giant steps until you get closer).
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flamepanther wrote:
CRTGAMER wrote:Just like what Bleem does to PS1 games. Upscales the pic to a higher resolution. PSX Metal Gear looks phenomenal on the Dreamcast.
I just wish there was a way for PSX emulators to get rid of the stupid "wiggle" Sony wrote into their polygon rendering "to expose more detail". It drives me nuts to see everything on the screen constantly twitching for no reason.
This this so much, if someone coded an emulator that tweaked this out, I'd stop playing my actual ps1 forever. Not even Bleem gets rid of it.
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Speaking of this,

As a retro gamer,
Would you play the original as it is ,
or would you go for the modified better version?
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CRTGAMER wrote:Just like what Bleem does to PS1 games. Upscales the pic to a higher resolution. PSX Metal Gear looks phenomenal on the Dreamcast.

Get your S-Video cable at Gamestop for five bucks!
This mis-labeled SKU, just avoid the multi console version.
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/Product ... t_id=32149
This is component cables, does it work on the n64?
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