Help me choose my next TV

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I'm going to check it out (the samsung) when i next go to best buy. I wont be buying the tv till November, but i want to get a look at it in person.

Thanks for the help. Its always good to get advice from someone in the buisness.

Just have to hope my walmart tv stand can handle the weight.
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Mendoza wrote:I'm going to check it out (the samsung) when i next go to best buy. I wont be buying the tv till November, but i want to get a look at it in person.

Thanks for the help. Its always good to get advice from someone in the buisness.

Just have to hope my walmart tv stand can handle the weight.
Yea you would have to check its weight rating, because any plasma is not a light tv haha
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Mendoza wrote: For instance Best Buy has a 50 inch plasma for 899.99

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+5 ... Id=9789343
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No svideo I can understand but no composite either. That's no good for retro gaming. Gotta check stuff like that to see if you'll be able to hook your games up without having to go buy an expensive converter.
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Hobie-wan wrote:
Mendoza wrote: For instance Best Buy has a 50 inch plasma for 899.99

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+5 ... Id=9789343
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1 PC
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No svideo I can understand but no composite either. That's no good for retro gaming. Gotta check stuff like that to see if you'll be able to hook your games up without having to go buy an expensive converter.
Good point Hobie. I use a separate crt tv for my retro machines. This one will be just for current gen stuff.

Edit: On review it does have a single composite input on the side. Best buy has it wrong on its stats page. I checked it at samsung's website.
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If you are serious about gaming then I would highly recommend a plasma. Superior quality to LCD, even LED-LCD. My friend has the new Samsung LED-LCD and it still suffers from the ghosting in fast moving scenes that LCD has always suffered from. Yes blacks are deeper but I just cannot live with that type of ghosting. If you don't like the idea of plasma (they consume slightly more power than LED-LCD and put out more heat and they're fatter) then I would wait for OLED TVs to come down in price. They are a competitor to plasma in visual quality since they can switch states way faster than LCD can. Plus you get true blacks in the same way as a plasma (IE black outputs ~0 light because there is no lighting element on in that 'pixel' - sorry for the laymans explanation, I really don't want to go into depth about this stuff).

If you can live with the ghosting that comes with LCD (LED-LCD doesn't improve the issue, all it does is give you better contrast ratio since it simply switches the LEDs off in the part of the image that is black - of course this does not occur in edge-lit LED, it's basically the same as a standard LCD backlight but instead of a CCFL that spans the entire back of the display it is just lit at the edges improving energy efficiency without sacrificing brightness), then go with LCD, but please compare it to plasma to see if the improvement in quality is noticeable to you. Some people simply can't see the difference. My friend can't see the ghosting on his Samsung LED-LCD at all, I can see it plain as day. It's very distracting.

Please don't be fooled with LED-LCD and Edge LED. They aren't OLED screens at all, they sound similar but are a totally different thing entirely in practice.
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I've heard bad things about plasmas with burn in screens and gases leaking away. I'm set on an LCD LED. OLEDs are wayy off in being affordable for me as I am an educator too. Should I go with Full LED backlighting or Edgelit? Name brand or is store brand good too? Thanks! :)
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Don't get a plasma TV. They are notorious for burn-in, and they do it fairly easily. I'm not sure if the burn-in is permanent, or if it just replaced by other burn-in but it seems to fade over time.

Its not just a matter of leaving the game paused for a long period of time either. Rather, things like HUDs will become your worst enemy. I used to play L4D a lot on my 360 and the HUD was burned in for months. Almost every game you play will have something that will easily burn into the screen and it gets kind of annoying. While watching TV I often see little outlines of health bars, guns, Peggle borders, and so on.

My plasma TV is a 50 inch Samsung, and it is about three or four years old so I don't know if they have improved on them since then but from my personal experience I would stay the hell away from plasma. As far as I knew, I thought Plasma was outdated already though and replaced by LED or something newer like that.

Also get a decent name brand TV. There are a lot of obvious name brand choices, but don't get some no-name piece of crap. I have bought a lot of random brands over the years and you really get what you pay for. I have gone through several "Zenith" and other shitty brand TVs, but my old ass Sony TV thats 25 years old still looks and sounds amazing.
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Para wrote:Don't get a plasma TV. They are notorious for burn-in, and they do it fairly easily. I'm not sure if the burn-in is permanent, or if it just replaced by other burn-in but it seems to fade over time.

Its not just a matter of leaving the game paused for a long period of time either. Rather, things like HUDs will become your worst enemy. I used to play L4D a lot on my 360 and the HUD was burned in for months. Almost every game you play will have something that will easily burn into the screen and it gets kind of annoying. While watching TV I often see little outlines of health bars, guns, Peggle borders, and so on.

My plasma TV is a 50 inch Samsung, and it is about three or four years old so I don't know if they have improved on them since then but from my personal experience I would stay the hell away from plasma. As far as I knew, I thought Plasma was outdated already though and replaced by LED or something newer like that.

Also get a decent name brand TV. There are a lot of obvious name brand choices, but don't get some no-name piece of crap. I have bought a lot of random brands over the years and you really get what you pay for. I have gone through several "Zenith" and other shitty brand TVs, but my old ass Sony TV thats 25 years old still looks and sounds amazing.
My Samsung plasma has none of these problems and it is on all the time. Plasma tvs have image retention, which can be mistaken for burn-in, but is NOT permanent unless left on a paused or still screen for quite a long time. I played raiden iv for over 3 hours straight when that game launched with tons of stationary images on screen, NOTHING. Plasma for the win!
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kgcarini wrote:I've heard bad things about plasmas with burn in screens and gases leaking away. I'm set on an LCD LED. OLEDs are wayy off in being affordable for me as I am an educator too. Should I go with Full LED backlighting or Edgelit? Name brand or is store brand good too? Thanks! :)
Burn in is a thing of the past with quality plasmas. You would have to leave a static image for hours at a time to have a chance at it. Many tvs have anti burn in tech built in and even things to fix it.

LED is overhyped for the most part. Bang for you buck, id go with a conventional LCD
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